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Re: What a Putz that Gnome be

From flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: What a Putz that Gnome be
Date 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:45:58 -0500, DFS wrote:

> On 11/27/2016 07:17 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500
>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500
>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500
>>>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:
>>>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon
>>>>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too.
>>>>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even
>>>>>>>> then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh
>>>>>>>> reboot.  After wasting a day searching for clues for the
>>>>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in
>>>>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at
>>>>>>>> the solution:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is
>>>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA
>>>>>>>> users...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each
>>>>>>>> time yo do...  Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save
>>>>>>>> them lot of time and ruined nerves.  Of course, the bored
>>>>>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros
>>>>>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their
>>>>>>>> hardware.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2
>>>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs:
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2
>>>>>>> New password:
>>>>>>> Retype new password:
>>>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd
>>>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash
>>>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Using xfce.  GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to
>>>>>>> switch to user2.  Just stays in an endless login loop.  I can log
>>>>>>> back in as dfs no problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2
>>>>>>> Password:
>>>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file
>>>>>>> or directory
>>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami
>>>>>>> user2
>>>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit
>>>>>>> logout
>>>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>>>>> dfs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry
>>>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically
>>>>>>> create a $HOME folder for new users.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a
>>>>>>> $HOME folder, but there's not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro
>>>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that
>>>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no
>>>>>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you
>>>>>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home
>>>>>> directory...
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> You don't have to use -m.  If /etc/login.defs contains 'CREATE_HOME
>>>>> yes', -m isn't necessary.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then login
>>>>> as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME.  It just goes
>>>>>     into an endless login cycle.
>>>>>
>>>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder,
>>>>> even if it's not there.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Are you really that stupid?
>>>
>>>
>>> Can you not read, fool?  It's 2 more hobbyware failures.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD...
> 
> 
> It is hobbyware failure.  Two instances of it.
> 
> And speak English, not Linux-babble.  What's WAD?
> 
> And why are you being such a prick?
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings manager?
> 
> 
> Why should I have to use a GUI, which calls useradd anyway?
> 
> https://github.com/manjaro/manjaro-settings-manager/archive/0.4.14.zip
> dialogs/adduserdialog.cpp
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> // Add user
> if (Global::runProcess("useradd",
>                             QStringList() << "-m" << "-p" << "" << "-U" 
> << "-G" << DEFAULT_USER_GROUPS << username,
>                             QStringList(),
>                             errorMessage) != 0)
> -----------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> 
> You seem to be taking Manjaro failure personally.  Why?
> 
> You didn't really think Linux or GuhNoo or Manjaro was bulletproof, did you?

Facts bother Linux loons.
There was a thread a couple of months ago where somebody posted
screenshots of Manjaro tripping all over itself trying to do a routine
upgrade.

Melzzzzz jumped all over it like his mother was being attacked and
accused the people in the thread of lying, faking screen shots and the
usual accusations the Linux loons toss around.

And of course Plunger Boy Willy Poaster and wannabe programmer
Ahlstrom among others joined in with the beating.

Turns out, Melzzzzz was wrong, found a documented bug and finally
admitted his mistake, to his credit. Of course the other spineless
Linux dweebs ran away.

Just another day in the bizarre world of Linux advocacy!

-- 
flatfish+++
mariana trench

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What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:25 -0800
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:28 -0800
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:01 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:00 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:14 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:20 -0800
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:25 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0800
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 09:52 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:41 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:08 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:14 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 17:00 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:29 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:02 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 13:13 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 08:41 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:51 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:11 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 14:52 +0000
            Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 10:20 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:50 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:07 -0800
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:13 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:17 -0800
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:24 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-27 17:48 +0100
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 21:39 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 15:05 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:31 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-30 06:26 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-30 14:36 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:18 +0000
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:36 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:06 +0000
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 11:02 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:45 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:01 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:16 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:45 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:50 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:53 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:00 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:07 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:19 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:05 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:13 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:17 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:04 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:16 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:02 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:10 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:59 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:48 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:52 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 14:04 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:06 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 20:22 +0000
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:37 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:02 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:08 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 01:17 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:27 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:02 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:25 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:34 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 03:38 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 22:20 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 08:49 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:59 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-27 23:14 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:57 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 00:47 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 20:01 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 01:27 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 17:37 +0000
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 13:26 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:07 -0700
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 22:29 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:37 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-29 01:52 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 18:21 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:06 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:30 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 11:42 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:39 -0700
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-28 10:28 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-29 20:03 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:05 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-30 14:31 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-30 10:23 -0600
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 03:03 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:14 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-12-01 13:31 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 09:14 -0800

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