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Re: What a Putz that Gnome be

From Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: What a Putz that Gnome be
Date 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:45:58 -0500
DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:

> On 11/27/2016 07:17 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:
> > On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 19:02:33 -0500
> > DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >  
> >> On 11/27/2016 06:48 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:  
> >>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 18:44:07 -0500
> >>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >>>  
> >>>> On 11/27/2016 05:16 PM, Melzzzzz wrote:  
> >>>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500
> >>>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
> >>>>>  
> >>>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:  
> >>>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to
> >>>>>>> logon anyone more then once and switching users became
> >>>>>>> impossible too. So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each
> >>>>>>> time and even then, the sucker refused to log yo on at times
> >>>>>>> despite of fresh reboot.  After wasting a day searching for
> >>>>>>> clues for the meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable
> >>>>>>> failure in required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I
> >>>>>>> finally arrived at the solution:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is
> >>>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA
> >>>>>>> users...
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache
> >>>>>>> each time yo do...  Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money
> >>>>>>> save them lot of time and ruined nerves.  Of course, the bored
> >>>>>>> pensionists and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros
> >>>>>>> to find one which will finally install and run on their
> >>>>>>> hardware.  
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2
> >>>>>> [sudo] password for dfs:
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2
> >>>>>> New password:
> >>>>>> Retype new password:
> >>>>>> passwd: password updated successfully
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd
> >>>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash
> >>>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Using xfce.  GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to
> >>>>>> switch to user2.  Just stays in an endless login loop.  I can
> >>>>>> log back in as dfs no problem.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
> >>>>>> dfs
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2
> >>>>>> Password:
> >>>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such
> >>>>>> file or directory
> >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami
> >>>>>> user2
> >>>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit
> >>>>>> logout
> >>>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
> >>>>>> dfs
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry
> >>>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically
> >>>>>> create a $HOME folder for new users.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a
> >>>>>> $HOME folder, but there's not.
> >>>>>>  
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro
> >>>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that
> >>>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no
> >>>>> problem... useradd also works but if you read documentation you
> >>>>> have to add -m option if you want to create user home
> >>>>> directory...  
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> You don't have to use -m.  If /etc/login.defs contains
> >>>> 'CREATE_HOME yes', -m isn't necessary.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) after creating a new user via useradd I can't logout then
> >>>> login as the new user, even if the new user has a $HOME.  It
> >>>> just goes into an endless login cycle.
> >>>>
> >>>> 2) useradd updates /etc/passwd to say the user has a home folder,
> >>>> even if it's not there.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>  
> >>>
> >>> Are you really that stupid?  
> >>
> >>
> >> Can you not read, fool?  It's 2 more hobbyware failures.
> >>
> >>  
> >
> > No, dumbass, it is not failure but WAD...  
> 
> 
> It is hobbyware failure.  Two instances of it.
> 
> And speak English, not Linux-babble.  What's WAD?
> 
> And why are you being such a prick?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Anyway, idiot, how come you haven't tried Manjaro settings
> > manager?  
> 
> 
> Why should I have to use a GUI, which calls useradd anyway?

Because it will create home directory...
and you Windroids have that thing for GUI....



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What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:25 -0800
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:28 -0800
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:01 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:00 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:14 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:20 -0800
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:25 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0800
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 09:52 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:41 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:08 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:14 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 17:00 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:29 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:02 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 13:13 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 08:41 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:51 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:11 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 14:52 +0000
            Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 10:20 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:50 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:07 -0800
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:13 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:17 -0800
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:24 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-27 17:48 +0100
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 21:39 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 15:05 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:31 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-30 06:26 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-30 14:36 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:18 +0000
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:36 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:06 +0000
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 11:02 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:45 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:01 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:16 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:45 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:50 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:53 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:00 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:07 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:19 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:05 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:13 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:17 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:04 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:16 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:02 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:10 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:59 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:48 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:52 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 14:04 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:06 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 20:22 +0000
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:37 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:02 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:08 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 01:17 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:27 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:02 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:25 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:34 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 03:38 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 22:20 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 08:49 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:59 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-27 23:14 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:57 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 00:47 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 20:01 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 01:27 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 17:37 +0000
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 13:26 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:07 -0700
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 22:29 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:37 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-29 01:52 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 18:21 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:06 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:30 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 11:42 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:39 -0700
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-28 10:28 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-29 20:03 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:05 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-30 14:31 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-30 10:23 -0600
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 03:03 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:14 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-12-01 13:31 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 09:14 -0800

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