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Re: What a Putz that Gnome be

From flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: What a Putz that Gnome be
Date 2016-11-27 17:50 -0500
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On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:45:59 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:

> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 17:44:08 -0500
> flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> wrote:
> 
>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 23:16:20 +0100, Melzzzzz wrote:
>> 
>>> On Sun, 27 Nov 2016 14:45:02 -0500
>>> DFS <nospam@dfs.com> wrote:
>>>   
>>>> On 11/27/2016 07:25 AM, Takuya Saitoh wrote:  
>>>>> Another update, another wasted day, another headache...
>>>>>
>>>>> After updating to Gnome 3.22 today, the system refused to logon
>>>>> anyone more then once and switching users became impossible too.
>>>>> So instead of logout yo got to do reboot each time and even then,
>>>>> the sucker refused to log yo on at times despite of fresh
>>>>> reboot.  After wasting a day searching for clues for the
>>>>> meaningless syslog messages like "Unrecoverable failure in
>>>>> required component org.gnome.Shell.desktop" I finally arrived at
>>>>> the solution:
>>>>>
>>>>> https://bbs.archlinux.org/viewtopic.php?id=219576
>>>>>
>>>>> Of course, the f*ckers changed the default login so Wayland is
>>>>> used without any clues or warning particularly to the NVIDIA
>>>>> users...
>>>>>
>>>>> NEVER update yo Linux system or get ready for big headache each
>>>>> time yo do...  Happy Appil and Windoze users, the money save them
>>>>> lot of time and ruined nerves.  Of course, the bored pensionists
>>>>> and hobbists can always play with dozen of distros to find one
>>>>> which will finally install and run on their hardware.    
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo useradd user2
>>>> [sudo] password for dfs:
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ sudo passwd user2
>>>> New password:
>>>> Retype new password:
>>>> passwd: password updated successfully
>>>> 
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ tail -2 /etc/passwd
>>>> dfs:x:1000:1000:DFS,,,,:/home/dfs:/bin/bash
>>>> user2:x:1001:1001::/home/user2:/bin/bash
>>>> 
>>>> Using xfce.  GUI logout from user dfs, and it won't allow me to
>>>> switch to user2.  Just stays in an endless login loop.  I can log
>>>> back in as dfs no problem.
>>>> 
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>> dfs
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ su - user2
>>>> Password:
>>>> su: warning: cannot change directory to /home/user2: No such file
>>>> or directory
>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ whoami
>>>> user2
>>>> [user2@manjaro dfs]$ exit
>>>> logout
>>>> [dfs@manjaro ~]$ whoami
>>>> dfs
>>>> 
>>>> Turns out you have to have a 'CREATE_HOME yes' entry
>>>> in /etc/login.defs before Linux useradd will automatically create a
>>>> $HOME folder for new users.
>>>> 
>>>> That's hobbyware in action: the password file says there's a $HOME 
>>>> folder, but there's not.
>>>>   
>>> 
>>> Hm, I am using KDE on Manjaro, created user from GUI Manjaro
>>> settings manager no problem... logged in another session as that
>>> user, changed user details in KDE GUI Account details no problem...
>>> useradd also works but if you read documentation you have to add -m
>>> option if you want to create user home directory...  
>> 
>> You also claimed that someone else Jim(?) was not telling the truth
>> when his manjaro system was trashed during a routine update.
>> After further investigation you finally admitted it was a known bug.
>> 
>> I wonder if you are so blinded with defending Linux that you don't
>> realize how fucked up it really is.
>> 
> 
> Jim(you) installed in VM, and you are incompetent to handle
> anything but Mint anyway...

Jim is not me and it doesn't matter what he installed in because your
accusation of him lying was baseless.

So here comes the elitist Linux attitude that only stupid people use a
version of Linux that works.
Good for you if you like fixing some crap distribution that is broken
out of the box.
Most people expect an operating system to work.
Evidently you are different.

BTW, I have a lot of company regarding LinuxMint:

https://distrowatch.com/

Again, Manjaro is complete crap.
Prove otherwise, or go away and play with your kernel.


-- 
flatfish+++
mariana trench

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What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:25 -0800
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 04:28 -0800
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:01 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:00 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:14 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:20 -0800
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:25 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0800
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 09:52 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:41 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:08 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:14 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 17:00 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:29 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:02 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 13:13 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 08:41 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:51 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 09:11 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2016-11-27 14:52 +0000
            Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 10:20 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Takuya Saitoh is. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 14:50 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:07 -0800
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:13 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Takuya Saitoh <taka0038@gmail.com> - 2016-11-27 07:17 -0800
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 16:24 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-27 17:48 +0100
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 21:39 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 15:05 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-28 19:53 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:31 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-30 06:26 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-30 14:36 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:18 +0000
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Silver Slimer <.m@nsn.s> - 2016-11-27 09:36 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-27 15:06 +0000
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 11:02 -0500
  Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 14:45 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:01 -0500
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:16 +0100
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:45 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 17:50 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-27 23:53 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:00 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:07 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:19 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:05 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:13 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:17 -0500
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:04 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:16 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-27 18:02 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:10 +0100
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:59 -0500
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:44 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 00:48 +0100
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 18:52 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-28 14:04 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:06 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:36 -0700
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 20:22 +0000
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:37 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:02 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:08 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 01:17 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:27 -0500
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 19:45 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 19:51 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:02 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:05 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:25 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:34 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 20:54 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 03:38 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be flatfish+++ <flatfish@linuxmail.org> - 2016-11-27 22:20 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-28 08:49 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 12:40 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2016-11-28 20:01 -0500
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:59 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-28 02:00 +0100
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-27 23:14 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 18:57 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 00:47 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-27 20:01 -0500
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 01:27 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-28 17:37 +0000
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-28 13:26 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:07 -0700
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-28 22:29 +0100
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 14:37 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-11-29 01:52 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-28 18:21 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2016-11-29 07:06 -0600
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 08:59 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2016-11-29 19:30 +0100
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2016-11-29 11:42 -0700
                Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-11-29 14:39 -0700
    Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Adlbifhr Mjduhgfks <am@random.us> - 2016-11-28 10:28 +0000
      Re: What a Putz that Gnome be DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2016-11-29 20:03 -0500
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be tmelmosfire <tmelmosfire@gmail.com> - 2016-11-29 18:05 -0800
        Re: What a Putz that Gnome be deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2016-11-30 14:31 +0000
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2016-11-30 10:23 -0600
            Re: What a Putz that Gnome be ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2016-12-01 03:03 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be Joey Fringo <fringo99@europe.com> - 2016-12-01 03:14 +0000
              Re: What a Putz that Gnome be GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2016-12-01 13:31 -0700
          Re: What a Putz that Gnome be fr314159@gmail.com - 2016-11-30 09:14 -0800

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