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Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night

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Henry Jones <Henry@aol.com> wrote
> Rod Speed wrote

>>> Only the likes of David Empson and Sobriquet and Poutnik and a few
>>> others are above you in terms of being open minded and helpful.

>> They arent than me. They just don't bother
>> to call you on your lies and trolling.

> That's a fair point that they don't respond as much as you do.

> For the record, I'm as balanced as anyone can get,

Another bare faced lie. You are nothing even remotely like that about
everything from by far the most useful advance we have recently seen,
clouds, to even the most basic stuff like paying for stuff using a credit
or debit card, to paying peanuts for useful apps, etc etc etc.

In fact I can't personally think of anyone more
UNBALANCED than you on those issues I just listed.

> since I can see both sides of every argument.

Another bare faced lie.

> Like you, I have a strong opinion, but that
> strong opinion is always based upon facts,

Another bare faced lie with your bare faced lie that there is
nothing available on iOS that isnt available with android as
well with all of airdrop, handoff, continuity, sandboxing etc.

Yes, there is also quite a bit that is available on android that
is not available on iOS, like automatic recording of all incoming
and outgoing cellular calls, automatic answering of incoming
cellular calls or the system set to always ask you if you want
to answer the incoming call with a voice response to that
question and being able to see what wifis your device can
see even if they arent all currently usable, so you can move
towards one of currently unusable ones if you need to or
tweak your own wifi setup to allow  more reliable wifi.

> so, for you to term them lies simply means
> you don't like the facts as I see them.

Another bare face lie. What is not to like about the fact that
there is quite a bit that iOS can do that android can not ?

> I may be wrong, of course, on my facts (but
> I rarely am, simply because they *are* facts);

That lie of yours that there is nothing that iOS can do that android can
not do is nothing even remotely like a fact, its just a bare faced lie.

> but sometimes I'm wrong since I can't and don't test every single scenario
> out there - and when it comes to adding bloatware to computers - I'm out
> of my league since you guys are very good at adding iTunes and other
> software to your computers so that they work better with your mobile 
> devices.

Another bare faced lie with all of airdrop, continuity, handoff and 
sandboxing
where we don’t need to add a damned thing to get that useful functionality.

And there is no need for itunes either, there are
plenty of other ways to do what itunes does too.

> Me? I just use the native software on the windows and linux computers,

More fool you. And that is a bare faced lie too, you have
just admitted that you do in fact use handbrake yourself.

> so, I know nothing of the computer-based tools you so often suggest.

In fact I don’t do that very often at all, mostly just alternatives to 
itunes.

> While I have used iTunes (and I hate it with a passion), I have less
> experience with cloud accounts which you guys espouse so frequently.

Because they are in fact by far the most useful technology that
has shown up in recent times because they are completely
automatic once setup and mean that you don’t have to fart
around manually moving stuff between your devices at all.

I used to do what you still do, move the shopping list and
database of the best prices I have ever seen and the size
and other comments database for clothes and shoes etc
to my smartphone using bluetooth just before leaving
the house to do some shopping etc. Now I update all
those on the desktop and never have to do a thing,
they are all automatically available on my smartphone
without me ever doing anything manually anymore.

> As for trolling, you're a bona-fide fool if you think I troll.

There is no other explanation for why you continually post
about how things are done on androids in an iOS group.

> I have proven time and time again that I let you guys have
> the last word and I very often respond to taunts with a simple
> smiley just to let you know, by way of courtesy that I've read it.

In fact you continually respew your lies like your bare faced lie
that there is nothing that iOS can do that android can not do.

And you are lying when you claim you respond with a smiley,
you actually respond with a list of what android can do that
iOS can not do when your nose is rubbed in your bare faced
lie that there is nothing that iOS can do that android can not do.

> If you actually do think I troll, then please just plonk me,

I never do that. I call trolls on their lies, essentially because
there are always plenty of people who don’t realise that a
lie is a lie who need to know that the lie is a lie.

> since I don't play that game and never will.

Yet another bare faced lie.

>>> Certainly the Jolly Troll the Jamie are far (far) below
>>> you in terms of knowledge and they're basically at the
>>> bottom of the pile when it comes to trying to be helpful.

>> They can't stand your tolling and lies.

> You are wrong on both counts.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

> a. I never troll.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

> b. You call a fact you don't like, a lie.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

What is not to like about the FACT that there are in fact
quite a few things that iOS can do that android can not
do, and which are in fact one of the reasons I choose to
have an iOS smartphone and not an android, like airdrop,
continuity, handoff and sandboxing in spades.

> I only talk facts.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

> And I never troll.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

> You have a strange definition of both, by the way.

There you go, lying thru your teeth yet again.

>>> I do appreciate that you solved the problem, so, there's really
>>> nothing left to discuss with respect to *how* to turn the iOS
>>> screen off on the iPad while listening to youtube audio at night.'

>> Except that it would be more convenient to use the youtube app addon.

> That's a fair-enough statement that it's fewer button presses to use the
> youtube addon.

And much more intuitive and orthogonal too because
all you have to do is hit the power button, just like you
do whenever you want to blank the screen like with a
navigation app when you are just using the voice
turn by turn instructions and never look at the screen
and want the better time on battery so you don’t have
to fart around plugging the smartphone into the charger
in the car etc.

> But I already don't use the youtube app all that much
> anyway, at least on Android - since NewPipe works
> much better for me than does the Youtube app.

Even sillier than you usually manage. Manually farting
around using newpipe is a completely fucking stupid
way of listening to stuff that’s on youtube.

> You guys don't mind shelling out money willy nilly for stuff that I get 
> free.

We in fact use the free stuff when its just as good as the paid for stuff 
and pay
peanuts for the better stuff when paying peanuts gets you something better.

You do in fact pay quite a bit for hardware but are too stupid to
pay peanuts for useful apps when they are better than the free stuff.

> You guys don't seem to mind privacy flaws such
> as registration (I *never* register for anything!)

How stunningly balanced of you.

> and you don't seem to mind web page
> stuff that should be done on the device

Another bare faced lie. Hardly any of us use groups.google,
almost all of us do usenet on out devices instead.

> and you don't even seem to mind doing everything on the cloud, etc.

Because that works much better than manually farting around
manually moving files around when that isnt necessary anymore.

> So, an app that works for most of you almost never is good enough
> for me since my requirements are usually far more stringent than yours.

Because your requirements are infinitely more STUPID,
like they must be free, never require any registration,
must do it the dinosaur manual way etc etc etc.

>> I couldn¢t find it using google either, presumably its relatively new and
>> the author hasn't got around to putting up a web site etc on it yet.

> Thanks for looking.
> I fully understand that it's *work* to find a decent app.
> And I don't ask anyone to *do* that work for me.

> But, if someone *says* it exists, I simply ask
> them *what* the app is that works for them.

> Then I test *that* app.
> That way, it's no work for you and less work for me.

Its likely completely academic anyway because since it asked me
if I wanted to try it, most likely it does cost peanuts if you decide
you like it and you will refuse to pay peanuts to go from a few taps
with chrome and a very intuitive UI to just the one with that addon.

> Of course, there are guys like nospam who constantly *say* there
> is an app for everything - but since they never back up their claims,
> I discount everything he says out of hand as worthless.

That is stupid. He does sometimes come up with something useful.

So do you, which is one of the reasons I read everything in here.

But then I have always been able to read very
quickly so its easier for me than for most.

The most I do at times is not bother to reply when things are a bit busy.

> At least when *I* suggest an app, it's one that I've tried myself
> (e.g., I recently suggested a good calculator for the savage savant).

>> I'll keep trying just hitting the power button when the youtube
>> app is playing and then hitting the home button again and see
>> if it pops up again. That¢s how I saw it the first time. And will
>> accept the offer to try it this time.

> Thanks for offering to do that effort.

Its no real effort. I likely will have someone else ask me how to do
that because it is something quite a few people do, listen to stuff
to pass the time etc and when it isnt possible to have the idevice
plugged into the charger, useful to turn the screen off so that the
time between charges is increased significantly, particularly when
travelling on public transport.

And that addon would also be useful for those who prefer to get
their music for free from youtube rather than pay for one of those
streaming services. But there are other ways of listening to music
off youtube too.

> In general, I never ask anyone to go to an effort to do "my research"
> for me, but just giving me a list of URLs (as SavageDuck did) isn't
> helpful because they have to be *tested* and almost always they fail.

Still much better than having to try to google for them from scratch
or try to comb thru the store. Someone has already done that work
when they give you a handful of urls and you can always go the long
winded route if none of the handful suit you.

> I tested the first three, for example, of SavageDucks URLs and all failed
> my basic requirements. The first failed instantly. The second failed in a
> minute and the third failed after a close inspection of its limitations.

Because you have some completely stupid restrictions on what you will use.

> Then I gave up. I started writing a response to Savageduck but
> I deleted it because he did go to the effort to list the URLs so
> I didn't want to shoot them down on him as he did try.

>>> Thank you for testing and suggesting the solution
>>> which entailed simply shutting it off three times with
>>> other stuff in between. That worked perfectly!

>> No problem, that's what these groups are about.

> Ummm... er... yes and no.
> Most Usenet newsgroups are GREAT as they're about helping each other.
> I participate daily in about a half dozen newsgroups and maybe a dozen
> overall over time (e.g., nntp groups and wifi groups sporadically).

> This particular newsgroup (and the other Apple
> newsgroup) is far different than all the rest.

All groups have their own unique identitys.

> To put it bluntly, this newgroup is mostly composed of people who can't
> handle facts and won't handle facts and who don't ever answer the 
> question.

Another lie.

They just don’t tolerate trolls and liars.

> Most of these people are *very responsive* though,
> so if you ask a question, such as a whether they have
> experience with propane monitors on their mobile
> devices, the thread is *filled* to the brim with responses.

> But almost none of them are useful.

Because you have very stupid restrictions on what you will use.

> Me? I have a Usenet style which is simple:
> a. I ask a question in its own thread.
> b. I manage that thread (which means I respond to almost everyone)
> c. I leave when the answer is obtained (but I respond some more)

In fact most of the time you troll like mad, and lie thru your teeth.

> For me, since I provide full information in *each* thread, it doesn't
> matter what nym I use; what matters are the details *in* the thread.

> You'll note that I berate those who try to destroy the thread (e.g.,
> the Jamie and The Jolly Troll) simply because every post from them
> is negative value to the thread. They can never answer the questions.

Yet another lie.

> I specifically *love* when David Empson writes, because
> he, above all, knows what he is talking about.

But hardly ever bothers to call you on your lies which IMO
isnt a great approach because plenty don’t realise that your
lies are lies, particularly the lies like your claim that there is
nothing that iOS can do that android can not do and the
other flagrant bare face lie that iOS is just as bad for the
security of your personal data as android is. It is very
undesirable indeed that that sort of bare faced lie is
not called, because there are plenty who need to know
that that is a lie so they are very selective about what
apps they try on their androids. And equally that there is
no reason to be anything like as careful with iOS devices.

> Sobrique is usually reasonable well balanced
> (although his latest ideas on taxation are a bit odd).

Damned odd, but not that uncommon.

> You are *sometimes* well balanced; but you jump
> to the liar and troll accusations too readily to be
> taken seriously when you are responding to me.

I call a spade a spade, a liar a liar and a troll a troll.

> You do appropriately tell Jamie that he couldn't weasel his
> way out of a wet paper bag, but you're dealing with a bona-fide
> moron so he will never understand (neither will the Jolly Troll).

> However, nospam is an enigma all by himself. He seems
> as smart as you seem, but he never backs up his claims

Sometimes he does. But he can never bring himself
to admit that he is wrong, the most he ever does is
shut up about his most terminal stupiditys after
desperately attempting to bullshit his way out of
his predicament like he did with sd cards.

> (which shows he's not as smart as he sounds),

It shows nothing of the kind. He's just
jerking your chain when he does that.

> and he is dead wrong on so many things (e.g., the app drawer
> concept) that he's only useful when he is actually correct.

Just as true of you and everyone else with that last.

> When he's actually correct, he's *very* useful because then he
> actually tells good facts - but he's wrong more than he's right
> simply because he doesn't really know the facts of what he says.

He does actually most of the time, just doesn’t have the balls to
admit to the most terminal stupiditys that he manages repeatedly.

> Savageduck is also very useful when the topic is media-file related.

Not just then, he knows plenty about other stuff too
and is a hell of a lot more balanced than you too.

And doesn’t lie thru his teeth or troll either.

>>> I agree with you that getting Safari to do what Chrome
>>> did is far more problematic in that Safari made everything
>>> in this quest far harder than did all the other browsers.

>> Yeah, absolutely classic example of unintended consequences
>> of trying to do something useful. It does make sense to offer
>> to give the url to the installed youtube app when Safari can
>> see a youtube url, but it would be better to allow you to
>> say no thanks and then behave just like no offer was made.

> Exactly! We agree.
> Safari is *trying* to do something useful by handing off the URL
> to Youtube, but, Safari didn't implement the "no thanks" option.

> I tried it multiple times, simply because I couldn't believe
> there wasn't a no-thanks option. I mean, why even bother
> to pop up the *question* if the *only* answer is yes?

> I thought that was a dumb implementation of an otherwise good idea. 

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  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-04 23:58 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 04:24 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 00:42 -0400
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              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:14 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:41 +0000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:54 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 22:08 +1000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Henry Jones <Henry@aol.com> - 2016-09-06 18:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-07 07:18 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 06:05 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:50 +0000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:27 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:32 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
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                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:33 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
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        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 08:33 +0000
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            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:32 +0000
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      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:58 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:10 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:27 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 01:42 -0400
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          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 12:31 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:17 +0200
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:19 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-05 01:38 -0500
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:49 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 17:20 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:57 +0200
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:40 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 13:11 +0200
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:41 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:04 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:04 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:07 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:22 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:27 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:41 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:51 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 21:00 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 03:16 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:35 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-05 14:55 -0700
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:06 -0700
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 03:16 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-06 00:47 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 08:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 11:05 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:34 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:05 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:49 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:16 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:45 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:15 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-08 20:05 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:03 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 15:37 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 19:19 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:37 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 04:26 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:43 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:22 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-08 01:38 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-07 12:48 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 09:58 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 10:01 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 11:19 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-08 06:24 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:40 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:13 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:41 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 10:51 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 09:51 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 10:03 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:42 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:40 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:42 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:22 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 14:36 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:42 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:24 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:29 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:58 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:08 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:42 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-09 21:21 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-10 10:47 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 23:37 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-10 03:54 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 15:40 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:57 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 15:06 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:50 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:21 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:08 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:43 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 11:37 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 09:51 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:38 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:03 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:46 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:48 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:39 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:11 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:44 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:44 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 15:40 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 23:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:01 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:32 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:05 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 01:16 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:27 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 10:18 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-11 00:56 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 11:14 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:18 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 16:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 03:34 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-07 09:53 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 23:33 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:34 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-08 10:12 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 00:54 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:57 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 06:58 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:05 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 14:10 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 14:25 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:48 +1200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:19 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:36 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:41 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:41 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:47 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:54 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:45 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 19:09 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:05 +1000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-09-07 00:35 +0100

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