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Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night

From	Henry Jones <Henry@aol.com>
Newsgroups	misc.phone.mobile.iphone, comp.mobile.ipad, comp.mobile.android
Subject	Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night
Date	2016-09-06 18:35 +0000
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On Tue, 6 Sep 2016 19:31:15 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:

>> Only the likes of David Empson and Sobriquet and Poutnik and a few
>> others are above you in terms of being open minded and helpful.
> 
> They arent than me. They just don┤ bother to call you on your lies and 
> trolling.

That's a fair point that they don't respond as much as you do.

For the record, I'm as balanced as anyone can get, since I can see both
sides of every argument. 

Like you, I have a strong opinion, but that strong opinion is always based
upon facts, so, for you to term them lies simply means you don't like the
facts as I see them.

I may be wrong, of course, on my facts (but I rarely am, simply because
they *are* facts); but sometimes I'm wrong since I can't and don't test
every single scenario out there - and when it comes to adding bloatware to
computers - I'm out of my league since you guys are very good at adding
iTunes and other software to your computers so that they work better with
your mobile devices.

Me? I just use the native software on the windows and linux computers, so,
I know nothing of the computer-based tools you so often suggest. While I
have used iTunes (and I hate it with a passion), I have less experience
with cloud accounts which you guys espouse so frequently.

As for trolling, you're a bona-fide fool if you think I troll.
I have proven time and time again that I let you guys have the last word
and I very often respond to taunts with a simple smiley just to let you
know, by way of courtesy that I've read it.

If you actually do think I troll, then please just plonk me, since I don't
play that game and never will.

>> Certainly the Jolly Troll the Jamie are far (far) below
>> you in terms of knowledge and they're basically at the
>> bottom of the pile when it comes to trying to be helpful.
> 
> They can't stand your tolling and lies.

You are wrong on both counts.
a. I never troll.
b. You call a fact you don't like, a lie.

I only talk facts.
And I never troll.

You have a strange definition of both, by the way.

>> I do appreciate that you solved the problem, so, there's really
>> nothing left to discuss with respect to *how* to turn the iOS
>> screen off on the iPad while listening to youtube audio at night.'
> 
> Except that it would be more convenient to use the youtube app addon.

That's a fair-enough statement that it's fewer button presses to use the
youtube addon. But I already don't use the youtube app all that much
anyway, at least on Android - since NewPipe works much better for me than
does the Youtube app. 

Newpipe plays the same stuff and - so far - I've *never* seen an
advertisement using NewPipe, so, whatever is happening is good (but I
rarely see advertisements on Youtube except on iOS so all my /etc/hosts
file additions must be helping me out).

So, the problem, I think, is that the youtube app has advertisements which
I don't see with the other methods. I'm not clear though on all the facts,
since I would think youtube can *force* an ad if they really wanted to -
but I don't ever see ads on my Linux or Android devices but they're highly
modified for privacy - so "something" I'm doing is getting rid of the
youtube ads.

Nonetheless, the iOS device does get youtube ads, which is why I don't
generally use the youtube app on the iOS device.

I guess if I better *understood* where those youtube ads were coming from
on the iOS device, I'd take measures to destroy them - but as I said, I
don't generally use the youtube app.

Besides, it's effort to choose the best youtube addon because, in my humble
experience, my constraints are tremendously more stringent than most of
yours.

You guys don't mind shelling out money willy nilly for stuff that I get
free.

You guys don't seem to mind ads - I hate them and never use an app that has
them unless there is absolutely no other apps out there (which rarely
happens).

You guys don't seem to mind privacy flaws such as registration (I *never*
register for anything!) and you don't seem to mind web page stuff that
should be done on the device and you don't even seem to mind doing
everything on the cloud, etc.

So, an app that works for most of you almost never is good enough for me
since my requirements are usually far more stringent than yours.

> I couldn┤ find it using google either, presumably its relatively new and
> the author hasn┤ got around to putting up a web site etc on it yet.

Thanks for looking.
I fully understand that it's *work* to find a decent app.
And I don't ask anyone to *do* that work for me.

But, if someone *says* it exists, I simply ask them *what* the app is that
works for them.

Then I test *that* app. 
That way, it's no work for you and less work for me.

Of course, there are guys like nospam who constantly *say* there is an app
for everything - but since they never back up their claims, I discount
everything he says out of hand as worthless.

At least when *I* suggest an app, it's one that I've tried myself (e.g., I
recently suggested a good calculator for the savage savant). 

> I'll keep trying just hitting the power button when the youtube app
> is playing and then hitting the home button again and see if it pops
> up again. That┬ how I saw it the first time. And will accept the offer
> to try it this time.

Thanks for offering to do that effort. 
In general, I never ask anyone to go to an effort to do "my research" for
me, but just giving me a list of URLs (as SavageDuck did) isn't helpful
because they have to be *tested* and almost always they fail.

I tested the first three, for example, of SavageDucks URLs and all failed
my basic requirements. The first failed instantly. The second failed in a
minute and the third failed after a close inspection of its limitations.

Then I gave up. I started writing a response to Savageduck but I deleted it
because he did go to the effort to list the URLs so I didn't want to shoot
them down on him as he did try.
> 
>> Thank you for testing and suggesting the solution
>> which entailed simply shutting it off three times with
>> other stuff in between. That worked perfectly!
> 
> No problem, that's what these groups are about.

Ummm... er... yes and no.
Most Usenet newsgroups are GREAT as they're about helping each other.
I participate daily in about a half dozen newsgroups and maybe a dozen
overall over time (e.g., nntp groups and wifi groups sporadically). 

This particular newsgroup (and the other Apple newsgroup) is far different
than all the rest. 

To put it bluntly, this newgroup is mostly composed of people who can't
handle facts and won't handle facts and who don't ever answer the question.

Most of these people are *very responsive* though, so if you ask a
question, such as a whether they have experience with propane monitors on
their mobile devices, the thread is *filled* to the brim with responses.

But almost none of them are useful.

Me? I have a Usenet style which is simple:
a. I ask a question in its own thread.
b. I manage that thread (which means I respond to almost everyone)
c. I leave when the answer is obtained (but I respond some more)

For me, since I provide full information in *each* thread, it doesn't
matter what nym I use; what matters are the details *in* the thread.

You'll note that I berate those who try to destroy the thread (e.g., the
Jamie and The Jolly Troll) simply because every post from them is negative
value to the thread. They can never answer the questions.

I specifically *love* when David Empson writes, because he, above all,
knows what he is talking about. Sobrique is usually reasonable well
balanced (although his latest ideas on taxation are a bit odd). 

You are *sometimes* well balanced; but you jump to the liar and troll
accusations too readily to be taken seriously when you are responding to
me.

You do appropriately tell Jamie that he couldn't weasel his way out of a
wet paper bag, but you're dealing with a bona-fide moron so he will never
understand (neither will the Jolly Troll).

However, nospam is an enigma all by himself. He seems as smart as you seem,
but he never backs up his claims (which shows he's not as smart as he
sounds), and he is dead wrong on so many things (e.g., the app drawer
concept) that he's only useful when he is actually correct.

When he's actually correct, he's *very* useful because then he actually
tells good facts - but he's wrong more than he's right simply because he
doesn't really know the facts of what he says.

Savageduck is also very useful when the topic is media-file related.

>> I agree with you that getting Safari to do what Chrome
>> did is far more problematic in that Safari made everything
>> in this quest far harder than did all the other browsers.
> 
> Yeah, absolutely classic example of unintended consequences
> of trying to do something useful. It does make sense to offer
> to give the url to the installed youtube app when Safari can
> see a youtube url, but it would be better to allow you to
> say no thanks and then behave just like no offer was made.

Exactly! We agree. 
Safari is *trying* to do something useful by handing off the URL to
Youtube, but, Safari didn't implement the "no thanks" option.

I tried it multiple times, simply because I couldn't believe there wasn't a
no-thanks option. I mean, why even bother to pop up the *question* if the
*only* answer is yes?

I thought that was a dumb implementation of an otherwise good idea.

Thread

Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 03:48 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-04 23:58 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 04:24 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 00:42 -0400
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:41 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 03:01 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:20 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 19:34 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:35 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 12:31 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:14 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:41 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:26 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:54 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 22:08 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:44 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 19:31 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Henry Jones <Henry@aol.com> - 2016-09-06 18:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-07 07:18 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 06:05 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:50 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 08:03 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:27 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:32 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:56 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:33 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:49 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-08 05:38 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:32 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:33 +1000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-05 01:35 -0500
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 08:33 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 04:39 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:32 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:12 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 17:41 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 02:46 -0600
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:44 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:47 -0600
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:34 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night crankypuss <undisclosedUserid@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 08:36 -0600
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:39 +1200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
        The shame of being an ignorant fool of a troll intensifies :-D [Was: Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night] jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-07 19:00 +1200
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 14:53 +1000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 15:09 +1000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:58 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:10 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 07:27 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 01:42 -0400
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:55 +0200
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 12:31 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:17 +0200
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:19 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "W. Wesley Groleau" <Groleau+News@FreeShell.org> - 2016-09-05 01:38 -0500
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:49 +0200
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 17:20 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 09:18 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 11:57 +0200
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:40 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 13:11 +0200
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 06:41 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 21:04 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:04 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:07 -0400
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:22 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:27 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:41 +0000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:51 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 21:00 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:50 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 03:16 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 07:35 +1000
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-05 14:55 -0700
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 20:06 -0700
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 06:49 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 03:16 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-06 00:47 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 08:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 11:05 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 18:34 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:05 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:49 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:16 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:45 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:15 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-08 20:05 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 12:03 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 15:37 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-06 19:19 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:37 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 14:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 04:26 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 20:19 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:43 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-06 23:09 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 10:22 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-08 01:38 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:35 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-07 12:48 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 09:58 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Savageduck <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> - 2016-09-07 10:01 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 11:19 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-08 06:24 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 17:28 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 04:40 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:14 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 09:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 02:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 12:13 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 03:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 13:41 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 10:51 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 09:51 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 10:03 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:42 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:40 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:42 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:22 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 14:36 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:42 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 09:24 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:29 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 18:58 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:08 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:42 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-09 21:21 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-10 10:47 +1200
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 23:37 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2016-09-10 03:54 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 15:40 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:57 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 15:06 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-11 00:27 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 10:50 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:21 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:08 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:43 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-07 21:31 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 11:37 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 09:51 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:38 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:03 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 19:04 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:46 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:48 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:01 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:39 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-10 03:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:11 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 05:44 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:44 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 11:14 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 19:06 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-09 15:40 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 23:39 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:01 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 09:47 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 23:13 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 05:32 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night AL <noemail@none.invalid.com> - 2016-09-08 15:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:05 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 01:16 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-09 18:00 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-10 19:27 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 10:18 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Gordon Levi <gordon@address.invalid> - 2016-09-11 00:56 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Ricardo Jimenez <rickyjim@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 11:14 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid> - 2016-09-07 20:18 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 21:10 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 16:45 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 03:34 +0000
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-07 09:53 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night The Real Bev <bashley101@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 23:33 -0700
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-07 16:34 +0000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night dorayme <do_ray_me@bigpond.com> - 2016-09-08 10:12 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-08 00:54 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 10:57 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night FPP <fredp151@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 06:58 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:05 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Micky <NONONObobbyburns1111@gmail.com> - 2016-09-05 14:10 -0400
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 14:25 -0400
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night jamiekg@wizardling.geek.nz (Jamie Kahn Genet) - 2016-09-06 06:48 +1200
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:19 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:36 +0000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:41 +0000
      Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 05:41 +1000
        Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 15:47 -0400
          Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 06:54 +1000
            Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 17:08 -0400
              Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:45 +1000
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2016-09-05 19:09 -0400
                Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 10:05 +1000
    Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Horace Algier <horatio@horatio.net> - 2016-09-05 19:17 +0000
  Re: Listening to youtube documentaries offline with the screen off at night Calum <com.gmail@nospam.scottishwildcat> - 2016-09-07 00:35 +0100

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