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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons |
| Date | 2016-08-25 16:11 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <e27ggoF8ahgU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 25/08/2016 2:01 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 9:53:31 AM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 25/08/2016 11:18 AM, Peter Riedt wrote: >>> On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 12:42:21 AM UTC+8, Gary Harnagel >>> wrote: >>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 8:53:29 AM UTC-6, Prokaryotic >>>> Caspase Homolog wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 3:34:54 AM UTC-5, Peter >>>>> Riedt wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 4:25:22 PM UTC+8, Sylvia >>>>>> Else wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> It requires knowledge of the central mass. You claim >>>>>>> that your theory does not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sylvia. >>>>>> >>>>>> The masses of the sun and Jupiter are well known. Perhaps >>>>>> you could do it to see if my calculations are similar. If >>>>>> they differ you may be right that I am wrong. >>>>> >>>>> But you claim not to need those masses to perform your >>>>> calculations. >>>>> >>>>> SHOW YOUR WORK. >>>> >>>> I suspect that he calculates all the orbits from the period >>>> and radius of one orbiting body. This gives him the value of >>>> GM without realizing it, or if he does realize it, he is >>>> cheating, as you said. >>> >>> I calculated a, t and v of all the planets and satellites in my >>> examples separately by the same method using my gravity theory. >>> I first derived all a's knowing only the individual t's, then >>> derived all t's knowing only the individual a's, then derived the >>> v's knowing the individual a's and t's. >>> >>> If no one can do it with the mathematics of GR, GR will be proved >>> a hairy-fairy highfalutin nonsense. >>> >> >> You cannot calculate the semi-major axis from just the orbital >> period, because the result will also depend on the central mass. If >> you're actually calculating your results, you're either deluding >> yourself about using the central mass, or are doing something that >> takes the central mass into account without realising it. >> >> Until you provide details, we can't tell which. >> >> Sylvia. > > Maybe I have discovered something that was not know about gravity > before. Should I disclose the Riedt Gravity Theory? Maybe not. > > No, you haven't discovered something that was not known. The force due to gravity is a function of mass - changing the central mass changes the force, and thus the orbital period for a given semi-major axis. No theory that omits mass as a parameter can possibly be correct. This should be obvious. Sylvia.
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The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-23 23:24 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 08:31 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 16:38 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-23 23:43 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 16:47 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 00:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 18:25 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 01:34 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 20:18 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 20:53 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 16:08 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 01:11 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 19:35 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-27 13:40 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 21:48 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-27 05:19 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:53 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-24 09:42 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 18:18 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 11:53 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 21:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 16:11 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:44 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 01:19 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 06:18 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 22:14 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:36 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 17:58 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-25 18:47 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 19:36 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-25 20:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:14 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 20:44 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:33 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 11:08 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:48 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 18:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 02:46 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 07:22 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:56 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 18:02 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-08-24 11:36 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 18:03 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 02:50 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 11:07 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:38 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 20:40 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 04:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 19:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:32 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:46 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:52 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 09:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 10:59 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 16:30 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 18:38 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 20:45 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 22:06 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 00:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-28 21:26 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 04:55 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-29 19:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 19:33 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 20:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 11:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 09:56 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 18:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 19:59 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-06 20:07 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 21:47 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Python <python@org.invalid> - 2016-09-07 10:41 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:45 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-10 19:07 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 17:49 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-11 18:02 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 20:08 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-12 00:48 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 07:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-06 19:40 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 19:21 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-07 07:32 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-07 19:38 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-08 11:20 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-08 11:10 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 11:27 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 23:57 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-23 23:39 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 11:12 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-24 02:41 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:50 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 02:48 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:40 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:33 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-02 19:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:45 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:43 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:59 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-26 10:30 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 20:37 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons astrofoton@interia.pl - 2016-08-27 08:12 -0700
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