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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
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| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons |
| Date | 2016-08-27 13:40 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <e2cgclFeq1vU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 27/08/2016 12:35 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: > On Thursday, August 25, 2016 at 2:09:01 PM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: >> On 25/08/2016 1:53 PM, Peter Riedt wrote: >>> On Wednesday, August 24, 2016 at 6:18:07 PM UTC+8, Sylvia Else wrote: >>> >>>> The constant of proportionality in Kepler's third law is 4 * Pi^2 / (G * M) >>>> >>>> So we have P^2 / a^3 = 4 * Pi^2 / (G * M) >>>> >>>> P = sqrt(Pi^2 * a ^ 3 / (G * M)) >>>> >>>> Where the central body is the sun, the product G * M is known more >>>> accurately than either of the factors, being 1.32712440018(9)×10^20 >>>> >>>> The semi-major axis of Earth is 149,598,023 km >>>> >>>> Plugging those numbers in gives a value for P of 31558244.21 seconds, >>>> which is 365.26 days to two decimal places. >>>> >>> >>>> Sylvia. >>> >>> Thanks for the info. I got this for P=sqrt(PI^2*a^3/GM): >>> >>> P=sqrt(9.86960437853402*149598023^3/132720000000000000000) >>> =498.9654411 >>> >>> Where did I go wrong? >>> >> >> You need to express the semi-major axis in metres, not kilometers. >> >> Note that I lost the four when writing out the expression for P, so you >> need to put it back in. >> >> P = sqrt(4 * Pi^2 * a ^ 3 / (G * M)) >> >> Sylvia. > > Your formula sqrt(4pi^2*am^3/GM) does produce the orbital times of the planets but it uses GM and it is based on Kepler not GR. > > How does GR predict/calculate t, a and v of the planets and the moons of Jupiter? My theory of Gravity can do it and do it without using G, M and GM. Can GR do it? > As has been stated before, GR reduces to this formula in this situation. If you won't believe that, then I don't know how to convince you, because you don't have the mathematical abilities to follow the derivation. Yes, it uses GM because it has to depend on the central mass. Your unpublished, secret, and undescribed theory, either has to do so in some way, or it will be incapable of handling different central masses, and will inevitably produce the same (wrong except for some specific central mass) results, regardless of the central mass. Since I'm tired of repeating myself, I'm not going to respond further to you in this thread until you give details of your alleged theory. Sylvia.
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The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-23 23:24 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 08:31 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 16:38 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-23 23:43 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 16:47 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 00:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 18:25 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 01:34 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-24 20:18 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 20:53 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 16:08 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 01:11 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 19:35 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-27 13:40 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 21:48 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-27 05:19 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:53 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-08-24 09:42 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 18:18 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 11:53 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 21:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-08-25 16:11 +1000
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:44 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 01:19 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 06:18 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 22:14 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:36 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 17:58 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-25 18:47 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-25 19:36 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-25 20:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 15:14 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 20:44 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 08:33 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 11:08 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:48 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 18:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 02:46 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 07:22 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:56 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons "Dono," <sa_ge@comcast.net> - 2016-08-24 18:02 -0700
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Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 18:03 -0700
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Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Poutnik <poutnik4nntp@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 11:07 +0200
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:38 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 20:40 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-26 04:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-26 19:54 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:32 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:46 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:52 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 09:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 10:59 -0700
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Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 18:38 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-27 20:45 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-27 22:06 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-28 00:01 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-28 21:26 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 04:55 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-29 19:20 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 19:33 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-29 20:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 11:34 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-09-06 09:56 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-06 18:54 -0700
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Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-08-25 02:48 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-08-24 17:40 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-25 08:33 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Peter Riedt <riedt1@yahoo.co.uk> - 2016-09-02 19:00 -0700
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:45 -0500
Re: The trajectory parameters a, t and v of some of Jupiter's moons Prokaryotic Caspase Homolog <prokaryotic.caspase.homolog@gmail.com> - 2016-08-24 07:43 -0700
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