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Re: And the winner is ...

From Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com>
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Subject Re: And the winner is ...
Date 2016-07-11 10:50 +0200
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Am 11.07.2016 07:31 schrieb Dr. Joachim Neudert:

> Weißt Du was daran hochinteressant ist? Nicht daß die Frau gelogen hat
> und den Mann nach Strich und Faden denunziert und  mit krimineller
> Energie ins Gefängnis bringen wollte.
>
> Sondern daß dieses unrechtmäßig aufgenommene Video als Beweismittel
> zugelassen wurde. Normalerweise sieht sich der Richter den Film und die
> Fakten nicht mal an.

Woher hast du das? Die "Fruit of the Poisonous Tree" Doktrin, nach der 
illegal erzeugte Beweismittel nicht zugelassen werden, gibt es in den 
USA, aber nicht hierzulande.

> Denk an die Dashboard-Kameras beim Strassenverkehr,
> dafür wird der Filmende regelhaft bestraft und als Beweismittel wird gar
> nichts gewertet, nicht mal angesehen.

Nö - google einfach mal nach "dashcam video als beweismittel", da 
findest du diverse Gegenbeispiele. Nichtsdestotrotz ist das Filmen nach 
Meinung einiger Datenschützer unzulässig, aber wenn es halt trotzdem da 
ist...

Kann man so sehen, aber was mich eigentlich an der Sache stört, ist, daß 
Polizei und neuerdings auch private Hilfspolizisten von der Bahn nach 
belieben mit Bodycams dauernd alles mögliche filmen können. Aber wehe, 
der Bürger filmt zurück...

Spannend wird es, wenn mal jemand mit einer Dashcam die Polizei bei was 
illegalem filmt. Die wird dann vermutlich am gleichen Ort wie die 
Festplatte von Max Strauß landen. Da könnte Streaming direkt in die 
Cloud tatsächlich mal Vorteile haben.

Hanno

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And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-09 23:58 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-09 22:35 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:40 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 00:54 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:46 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 10:21 +0200
        Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 10:41 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:02 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:27 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:32 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:42 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 12:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 11:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 16:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:07 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-14 07:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 10:34 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-12 18:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:35 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 18:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 18:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 20:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 13:23 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 17:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-13 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 23:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-01 21:44 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-02 03:57 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-03 12:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 14:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:53 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 15:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 15:21 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-13 23:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 01:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 00:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:24 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 07:37 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 10:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 02:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:52 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 17:17 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 11:53 -0700
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                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 10:42 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 23:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-16 16:33 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 20:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-16 15:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:56 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:16 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:35 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-11 18:33 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 18:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-12 16:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-14 15:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 07:58 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 17:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 02:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 05:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:10 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:48 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Goetz Schultz <goetz@-delete-suelze.de> - 2016-07-15 18:00 +0100
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:53 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-15 23:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2016-07-16 03:04 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-16 05:21 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-16 09:28 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 17:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-07-11 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 23:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-12 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-12 07:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:55 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-13 08:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:38 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 22:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 18:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 19:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:29 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-07-10 19:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-10 20:02 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-11 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:03 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 20:11 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:19 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 09:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 08:54 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 10:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 03:29 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 12:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 11:37 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 13:46 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:07 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 12:23 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 14:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 13:35 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 15:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-11 09:18 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 16:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-12 22:43 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 10:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 01:20 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:13 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Mayer <beam.bam.boom@knuut.de> - 2016-07-11 17:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:59 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 23:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 07:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 08:44 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:27 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 09:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:52 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 09:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:36 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 10:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 14:32 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-12 02:19 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:35 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 12:17 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:39 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:07 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 11:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 13:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:56 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 15:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 14:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:14 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 13:03 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:14 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 13:29 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 15:57 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-12 12:21 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 12:48 +0200

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