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Re: And the winner is ...

From Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de>
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Subject Re: And the winner is ...
Date 2016-07-11 10:10 +0200
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On Mon, 11 Jul 2016 07:31:32 +0200, "Dr. Joachim Neudert" posted:

...
>Sondern daß dieses unrechtmäßig aufgenommene Video als Beweismittel
>zugelassen wurde. 

Du siehst zuviel amerikanische Serien.

>Normalerweise sieht sich der Richter den Film und die
>Fakten nicht mal an. Denk an die Dashboard-Kameras beim Strassenverkehr,
>dafür wird der Filmende regelhaft bestraft und als Beweismittel wird gar
>nichts gewertet, nicht mal angesehen.

Das ist allgemein keineswegs so, sondern wird im Einzelfall
entschieden.

"Der 4. Senat für Bußgeldsachen des Oberlandesgerichts Stuttgart hat
es in einem heute veröffentlichten Beschluss für grundsätzlich
zulässig erachtet, in einem Bußgeldverfahren ein Video zu verwerten,
das ein anderer Verkehrsteilnehmer mit einer „Dashcam“ aufgenommen
hat. Dies gelte jedenfalls für die Verfolgung schwerwiegender
Verkehrsordnungswidrigkeiten wie – vorliegend – eines
Rotlichtverstoßes an einer mindestens seit sechs Sekunden rot
zeigenden Ampel." 
http://www.olg-stuttgart.de/pb/,Lde/Startseite/Medien/_Dashcam_-Aufnahmen+koennen+zur+Verfolgung+schwerwiegender+Verkehrs-ordnungswidrigkeiten+grundsaetzlich+verwertet+werden/?LISTPAGE=1178164

-- 
Schöne Grüße,
Wolfgang

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And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-09 23:58 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-09 22:35 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:40 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 00:54 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 02:46 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 10:21 +0200
        Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 10:41 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:02 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:27 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:32 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:42 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 12:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-10 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-10 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 11:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 16:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:07 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-14 07:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 10:34 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-12 18:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:35 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:07 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 18:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 18:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-13 18:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 20:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 12:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 21:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 13:23 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 17:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-13 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 14:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 23:25 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-01 21:44 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-02 03:57 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-02 12:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-03 12:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:11 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 14:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 14:53 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 15:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-08-03 15:21 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-08-03 06:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-13 23:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 01:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 00:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:24 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:49 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 07:37 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 10:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 02:00 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 08:52 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 17:17 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-13 20:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 11:53 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-07-13 21:38 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-13 22:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Peter Mc Donough <mcd-mail-lists@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 12:34 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 19:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 10:42 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-14 23:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:19 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-16 16:33 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-16 20:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-16 15:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:56 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 20:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:16 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:35 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-11 18:33 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 18:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 22:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-12 09:39 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-12 16:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-13 17:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 15:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2016-07-14 15:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 16:27 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <da_lodda@gmx.de> - 2016-07-14 07:58 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 17:09 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-15 02:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 05:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:03 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:10 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-15 18:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:25 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-15 16:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-15 09:48 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Goetz Schultz <goetz@-delete-suelze.de> - 2016-07-15 18:00 +0100
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-18 00:53 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-15 23:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hartmut Ott <hottm@arcor.de> - 2016-07-16 03:04 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-16 05:21 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-16 09:28 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-14 22:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:05 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-07-11 17:41 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-07-11 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Ullrich <ullrich_bernd@hotmail.com> - 2016-07-11 23:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-12 08:08 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-12 07:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:55 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-13 08:26 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-13 12:38 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2016-08-01 22:57 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:58 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 13:59 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:06 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 22:52 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 18:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 18:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 19:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:29 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ricardo Szabo <usenet13@rickszabo.de> - 2016-07-10 19:44 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 19:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Holger Marzen <holger@marzen.de> - 2016-07-10 20:02 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:23 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-11 00:12 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:03 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 20:11 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 20:19 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 09:26 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 08:54 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 10:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 03:29 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 12:36 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 11:37 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 13:46 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:07 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 12:23 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 12:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 14:40 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 13:35 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Frank Hucklenbroich <Hucklenbroich01@aol.com> - 2016-07-11 15:47 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-11 09:18 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 16:55 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dieter.Sp@gmx.de - 2016-07-12 22:43 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 10:02 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-13 01:20 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-13 10:13 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 00:13 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Bernd Mayer <beam.bam.boom@knuut.de> - 2016-07-11 17:17 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Diedrich Ehlerding <diedrich.ehlerding@t-online.de> - 2016-07-11 20:13 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-07-11 11:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:59 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2016-07-10 23:18 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-11 22:48 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-10 23:20 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 07:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 08:44 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:27 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 09:43 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 07:52 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 09:54 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Ruediger Lahl <ruediger.lahl@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 08:42 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:31 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 01:36 -0700
                Re: And the winner is ... Willi Marquart <usenet@neppi.net> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-11 10:10 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 10:50 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 10:55 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2016-07-11 14:32 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-11 14:45 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-11 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-07-12 02:19 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 11:35 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 12:17 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
          Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 11:37 +0200
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:39 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
          Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 09:56 +0000
            Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 12:07 +0200
              Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 11:04 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 11:48 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 13:51 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:56 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 13:15 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:22 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2016-07-10 15:29 +0200
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 13:36 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-07-10 14:08 +0000
                Re: And the winner is ... Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-10 14:14 +0000
    Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 13:03 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Sepp Neuper <Sepp_Neuper@web.de> - 2016-07-10 21:02 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... rhartmann@trash-mail.com (Reiner Hartmann) - 2016-07-10 12:14 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Herwig Huener AQSR 5 <Herwig.Huener@t-online.de> - 2016-07-10 13:29 +0200
      Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-10 15:57 +0200
  Re: And the winner is ... "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2016-07-12 12:21 +0200
    Re: And the winner is ... Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2016-07-12 12:48 +0200

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