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Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?

From	"3899jk" <3899jk@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	alt.folklore.computers
Subject	Re: Which Books Can You Recommend For Learning Computer Programming?
Date	2016-04-13 04:45 +1000
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"Morten Reistad" <first@last.name.invalid> wrote in message 
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> In article 
> <1461964954.482099422.669856.peter_flass-yahoo.com@news.eternal-september.org>,
> Peter Flass  <peter_flass@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>> Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> wrote:
>>>>> jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dan Espen wrote:
>>>>>>> Walter Bushell <proto@panix.com> writes:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In article <MPG.316b7c2a14d4f4a698a077@news.eternal-september.org>,
>>>>>>>> "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Disaster is more likely to come
>>>>>>>>> from not understanding that putting too much weight in the wrong 
>>>>>>>>> place
>>>>>>>>> can cause control problems than from not understanding what goes 
>>>>>>>>> on in
>>>>>>>>> the engine.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Oh yes. Some drivers overload their car, because they (the drivers) 
>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>> so obese. What do you expect when the government is doing 
>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>> thing the can do to increase obesity?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Wow!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can only guess that you are blaming your own over eating on the
>>>>>>> government.  No cops in my kitchen, how about you?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you obeyed what the government recommends you should eat, your
>>>>>> weight would increase.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> /BAH
>>>>>
>>>>> Feel free to point out why:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/
>>>>>
>>>>> Here I am banging my head against a rock wall.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those that can actually read and understand things,
>>>>> here are the recommended calories:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/appendix-2/
>>>>
>>>> As others have said, the government giveth and the government taketh 
>>>> away.
>>>> They give large subsidies to producers of sugar and corn (HFCS), so 
>>>> sweets
>>>> are relatively cheaper than they should be.  It's like grocery 
>>>> coupons - I
>>>> never see coupons for broccoli or kale, but always do for soda and 
>>>> potato
>>>> chips.
>>>
>>> No one from the "government" forces you to eat any of that stuff.
>>> Seriously, blaming the government for what you eat is ridiculous.
>>> And that document cited above tells you not to eat junk food.
>>>
>>> I know current RW culture blames everything on the government,
>>> but blaming the government for overeating points at a mental
>>> deficit in the blamer.
>>>
>>
>>Eliminate the subsidies for sugar and hfcs.   This is in line with rw
>>thinking, if not current practice in the political sewers.
>
> Many countries have big issues with the agricultural industrial
> complex. (excuses to Ike for the name).
>
> Ours is documented in the TV-series "smaken av hund" (tr. "the taste
> of dog") that ran ~2 years ago. This documents a set of regulatory
> and industrial interactions that are definately not what the
> legislators imagined, to say it diplomatically.
>
> I do not know many details of the US interactions, but they
> do not seem much better, from what can be observed casually.
>
> You even have agri-subsidies going back to the Civil War.
>
> Such market manipulation will have dietary effects on the
> population when seen as a macro observation. Cheap,
> non-spoilt food will be eaten by someone.

But won't usually produce obesity. The obesity epidemic
isn't due to food being too cheap, it's due to modern
processed food being very calorie rich and that sees
people shovel rather more calories into their mouths
than they burn.

And ag subsidies don’t necessarily produce cheaper
food anyway, quite a bit of the time they actually
produce more expensive food. Same with non tariff
barriers which the US particularly still has lots of.

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