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Re: Ransomware

From "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com>
Newsgroups alt.folklore.computers
Subject Re: Ransomware
Date 2016-02-21 03:41 +1100
Message-ID <dirjaeFig7aU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (9 earlier) <PM00052C0B6D1C5E03@aca4282e.ipt.aol.com> <qi5hpc-531.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> <PM00052C1FE3C45F6E@aca432ec.ipt.aol.com> <s8rjpc-fp4.ln1@sambook.reistad.name> <PM00052C34A29341E4@aca405fb.ipt.aol.com>

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"jmfbahciv" <See.above@aol.com> wrote in message 
news:PM00052C34A29341E4@aca405fb.ipt.aol.com...
> Morten Reistad wrote:
>> In article <PM00052C1FE3C45F6E@aca432ec.ipt.aol.com>,
>> jmfbahciv  <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>Morten Reistad wrote:
>>>> In article <PM00052C0B6D1C5E03@aca4282e.ipt.aol.com>,
>>>> jmfbahciv  <See.above@aol.com> wrote:
>>>>>Michael Black wrote:
>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016, Questor wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Wed, 17 Feb 2016 00:20:49 +0100, Morten Reistad
>>>>><first@last.name.invalid>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> My mom was very careful with the web sites she visited, and still 
>>>>>>>> her
> XP
>>>>>>>> machines had ~100 new instances of malware after a month. It got to 
>>>>>>>> be
> a
>>>>>>>> quite tall order to keep cleaning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There are lots of "spelling trapdoors" out there, like 
>>>>>>>> micros0ft.com,
>>>etc.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not letting your relatives run as admin makes cleanup a *lot* 
>>>>>>> easier.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Someone locally, who is an actual system administrator, he set up 
>>>>>> Linux
>>>>>> for his grandmother (I think it was) and kept the root account for
>>>>>> himself.  And he administers it remotely, just like at work on a big
>>>>>> system.
>>>>>
>>>>>The biggest problem is that there is no documentation available for the
>>>>>grandmother to know what she has to do to be a sysadmin.  Most of the
>>>>>docs available are addressed to a user, not an owner, of a system.
>>>>>
>>>>>/BAH
>>>>
>>>> Barb, you need to fast forward from ca 1996, when this was a valid
>>>> complaint.
>>>>
>>>> Now you can pick and choose the materials you like. A lot of it is
>>>> available on the net, and is well indexed. I usually just ask google,
>>>> and get a list of at least a dozen good answers whenever I do.
>>>
>>>But you know magic incantations to acquire the answers.  Taht's the
>>>problem with search-based documentation.  There is no cookbook
>>>which tells a inexperienced _system owner_ what his/her
>>>responsibilities are.  The tasks required by a user are different
>>>from the tasks required by a system owner.  The same is true
>>>with a network administrator and network user.
>>>
>>>DEC's manuals split up these tasks with an intro for most of them.
>>
>> DEC's manuals were (are?) fine technical documents, but they
>> are for a reasonably educated audience.
>
> Not really.

Yes, really.

> The only requirement was that someone could read English.

Bullshit. They were completely useless for the sort of person
who has decided that they can't use a 4 function calculator
or a cellphone, even when they can read english fine.

>>And there are only two
>> versions, the deep technical manuals and the guides.
>
> You forget that we were also training the public how to own and
> use computers.  This involved all aspects of hard/software
> development, maintainance, security, regulation and operation.

And you can't do that with the sort of person who
has decided that they can't use a 4 function calculator
or a cellphone, even when they can read english fine.

> The reason DEC's manuals were so good is that we tried different
> approaches over the years and ended up with the documentation
> techniques which worked for everyone;

Like hell it did with the sort of person who has decided
that they can't use a 4 function calculator or a cellphone,
even when they can read english fine.

> this includes the ranges of IQ,

Like hell it did with the sort of person who has to
be shown how to do things by someone else and
who can't use something as basic as a 4 function
calculator just using a manual.

> rational thinking ability and personality styles.

>> The last 20 years have brought forward a plethora of Linux and
>> *n*x documentation; from "*** for dummies" (which is a pretty good
>> intro for granny, provided she can read elementary documentation)
>> to the "kernel guides" which is for the deep kernel hacker.

> Those are for granny usage, not granny system owner.

Wrong.

> Every book I've read is either aimed at Unix gurus or a single user.

Then you need to get out more and read some of the stuff on the web.

> None address teh granny who owns a machine and needs
> to do other things than web surf, email and store photos.

BULLSHIT. Plenty go thru the choice of distros available, what
some do better than others, perfect for the granny who is
deciding which distro to use for doing that stuff you listed.

>> And everything in between. At least a score of different educational
>> approaches. And there are youtube videos for a lot of this as well.
>>
>> And you need(ed) a lot more magic incantations to find stuff in
>> DEC's (and everyone else's for that matter) manuals. Follow the
>> links the system presents to you when it comes up for the first
>> time (and every time it is booted thereafter, until you dispose
>> of that screen).
>>
>> Yes, there is complexity here, but it is very nicely documented.
>>
>> Windows is not better in this respect. It has the advantage that
>> the hardware vendors have a mandatory test regime to get to use
>> windows on their iron, so this class of failures are fewer between.
>> But just look for stuff like hardware installation, and the order
>> in which windows drivers are loaded. Or not.
>
> I'm talking about Unix system owners; MS' approach is not interesting
> because their tradeoff is to keep the system owner stupid.

Another pig ignorant lie.

>> This cross-effect between drivers is largely gone in *n*x, because
>> the drivers are (mostly) under the control of the kernel developers.
>>
>> You really need to fast forward to 2016 here.
>>
>> Go visit a good technical bookstore, and look at the *n*x shelf.
>> Or visit some oreilly.com or similar website.
>
> I have not looked in the last 5 years; I will try again.
>
> One of the reasons you cannot understand what I'm trying to
> talk about is because you already know too mych about Unix.

BULLSHIT.

> Very few people can "play dumb" and be able
> to imagine what an inexperienced user needs.

BULLSHIT.

> There may have been 4 or 5 people in all
> of DEC who could do this type of thinking.

BULLSHIT.

And now we have VASTLY more
doing it every day on the web etc.

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          Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-17 07:38 -0700
          Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 18:07 +0000
            Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:10 -0600
              Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:34 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-18 12:06 -0600
    Re: Ransomware Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-02-16 12:49 -0800
      Re: Ransomware Lawrence Statton <lawrence@senguio.mx> - 2016-02-16 16:55 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-16 17:31 -0600
      Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 16:11 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:26 +1100
      Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 11:19 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-17 12:05 -0600
          Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 17:58 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-17 18:41 -0700
              Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 18:39 -0800
  Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-16 16:44 -0400
    Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-16 15:30 -0600
      Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-17 00:20 +0100
        Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2016-02-17 18:48 -0500
            Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@Last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 16:46 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-18 11:06 -0800
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 14:43 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 14:06 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 15:48 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "Osmium" <r124c4u102@comcast.net> - 2016-02-18 15:36 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:30 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-18 19:38 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:43 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 00:51 +0100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:45 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-19 15:00 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 07:01 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-19 10:16 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 11:19 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-19 18:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-19 12:54 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2016-02-20 17:46 -0800
                Re: Ransomware JimP <solosam90@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 15:08 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Charles Richmond" <numerist@aquaporin4.com> - 2016-02-23 16:01 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 21:24 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 04:58 +1100
                Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-19 13:40 +0000
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:06 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 10:11 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 21:44 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:13 +1100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-19 17:08 +0100
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:41 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 18:15 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 09:35 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-21 10:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 16:48 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-21 18:40 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 01:53 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-21 18:36 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 00:12 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 09:37 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:17 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 09:42 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 15:52 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Dan Espen <despen@verizon.net> - 2016-02-22 10:23 -0500
                Re: Ransomware using libc scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-22 17:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 20:29 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Ahem A Rivet's Shot <steveo@eircom.net> - 2016-02-22 19:38 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 21:31 +0100
                Re: Ransomware using libc Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-22 17:17 +0000
                Re: Ransomware using libc Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 14:41 -0600
                Re: Ransomware using libc Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:07 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:16 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 17:21 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2016-02-22 09:34 -0700
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 11:11 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 18:25 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 15:15 -0600
                Re: Ransomware Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2016-02-22 22:28 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-22 21:46 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:05 +1100
              Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-19 05:31 +1100
              Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-18 13:56 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-19 14:24 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 05:16 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-19 17:09 -0600
                Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-20 15:18 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 03:55 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-20 19:56 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-22 14:07 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 07:15 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 18:30 -0500
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-23 01:49 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:09 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-23 13:03 +1100
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:12 -0600
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:29 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 13:35 -0600
            Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-20 09:55 +0000
              Re: Ransomware Peter Flass <peter_flass@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-20 07:30 -0700
                Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-20 11:11 -0500
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-21 04:05 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 11:55 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-21 14:04 +0100
                Re: Ransomware Huge <Huge@nowhere.much.invalid> - 2016-02-21 13:57 +0000
                Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-21 23:28 +0000
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:34 +1100
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 03:32 +1100
                Re: Ransomware Dave Garland <dave.garland@wizinfo.com> - 2016-02-21 12:14 -0600
                Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-22 07:47 +1100
      Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 14:03 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <jmelson@wustl.edu> - 2016-02-17 15:20 -0600
          Re: Ransomware scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-02-17 21:31 +0000
          Re: Ransomware Stan Barr <plan.b@bluesomatic.org> - 2016-02-18 08:23 +0000
            Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:42 -0600
      Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:23 -0500
        Re: Ransomware Jon Elson <elson@pico-systems.com> - 2016-02-18 11:43 -0600
          Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:48 -0500
    Re: Ransomware hancock4@bbs.cpcn.com - 2016-02-16 17:04 -0800
      Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:42 +1100
      Re: Ransomware Charlie Gibbs <cgibbs@kltpzyxm.invalid> - 2016-02-17 04:17 +0000
        Re: Ransomware Mike Spencer <mds@bogus.nodomain.nowhere> - 2016-02-17 04:08 -0400
          Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:04 +0000
        Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 06:38 -0500
          Re: Ransomware Morten Reistad <first@last.name.invalid> - 2016-02-18 13:38 +0100
            Re: Ransomware "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-02-18 17:57 -0500
    Re: Ransomware "hgww" <hgww@gmail.com> - 2016-02-17 14:24 +1100
    Re: Ransomware usenet@only.tnx (Questor) - 2016-02-17 23:03 +0000
      Re: Ransomware Anne & Lynn Wheeler <lynn@garlic.com> - 2016-02-17 16:43 -0800
      Re: Ransomware jmfbahciv <See.above@aol.com> - 2016-02-18 13:58 +0000
    Re: Ransomware Stephen Sprunk <stephen@sprunk.org> - 2016-02-19 12:55 -0600

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