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Am 12.02.2016 21:23, schrieb Thomas Heger:
> Am 12.02.2016 06:02, schrieb Tom Roberts:
>
>> Everything you wrote is a complete fabrication and has NOTHING WHATEVER
>> to do with rotation or light cones (ostensibly what you are attempting
>> to write about).
>>
>> Why do you bother to just make stuff up and pretend it is true? What's
>> the point?
>
> I did not write about light-cones, but about black holes.
>
> I assume a physical reality of spacetime, where the axis of time could
> turn in some regions into directions, which other observers regard as
> spatial.
>
> See from the back a timeline points into the future and drags the
> observer and (everything else) with it.
>
> This is a picture and similar to what the term 'black hole' means.
>
> Seen from the other side (or: time-reverted) a black hole is similar to
> what we call 'big bang'.
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone

It is this picture:

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/300px-World_line.svg.png

What we see (as observers) is what is happening along our own past light 
cone.

The cone itself is a reduction by one dimension, which we had to keep in 
mind.

The cone has 2+1 dimension, meaning actually 3+1.

So we need to multiply it with three, since there are there combinations 
of 2 out of 3 axis (xy, yz, xz).

Actually meant are nested spheres, which are nested in time (older the 
further away).

This is actually what we call 'universe'.

The point 'here and now' is actually the observer.

So to any observer belongs his own universe, since that is actually his 
view about a certain reality, we cannot see directly.

His view and his  now and his here are in fact comoving (with him/her).

This view is  - of course - not really real, but an impression someone 
has. But everybody has one, but about a different universe.

Also the axis of time is unique to any observer, since it is actually 
his own path through space and time, which is different for everybody.

Now we view upon regions, where time does not flow into the same 
direction as our own timeline points, than we would also see the 
corresponding space distorted.

In case of a black hole this space would shrink and the bent axis of 
time would drag us with it, hence would let us see a different universe, 
which belongs to that now different axis of time.

In the opposite case the axis of time points towards us, hence there 
seem to pop things out of nowhere. There had been there before, but in 
this invisible space, which is not along our own past light cone.

And that is the same as a black hole, but only with the axis of time 
pointing towards us (a 'white hole').


TH

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