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Re: rotation

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: rotation
Date 2016-02-14 15:50 +0100
Message-ID <dibihoFeb31U1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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Am 14.02.2016 05:57, schrieb benj:

>>>>> Everything you wrote is a complete fabrication and has NOTHING
>>>>> WHATEVER
>>>>> to do with rotation or light cones (ostensibly what you are attempting
>>>>> to write about).
>>>>>
>>>>> Why do you bother to just make stuff up and pretend it is true? What's
>>>>> the point?
>>>>
>>>> I did not write about light-cones, but about black holes.
>>>>
>>>> I assume a physical reality of spacetime, where the axis of time could
>>>> turn in some regions into directions, which other observers regard as
>>>> spatial.
>>>>
>>>> See from the back a timeline points into the future and drags the
>>>> observer and (everything else) with it.
>>>>
>>>> This is a picture and similar to what the term 'black hole' means.
>>>>
>>>> Seen from the other side (or: time-reverted) a black hole is similar to
>>>> what we call 'big bang'.
>>>>
>>>
>>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Light_cone
>>>
>>> It is this picture:
>>>
>>> https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/16/World_line.svg/300px-World_line.svg.png
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> What we see (as observers) is what is happening along our own past light
>>> cone.
>>>
>>> The cone itself is a reduction by one dimension, which we had to keep in
>>> mind.
>>>
>>> The cone has 2+1 dimension, meaning actually 3+1.
>>>
>>> So we need to multiply it with three, since there are there combinations
>>> of 2 out of 3 axis (xy, yz, xz).
>>>
>>> Actually meant are nested spheres, which are nested in time (older the
>>> further away).
>>>
>>> This is actually what we call 'universe'.
>>>
>>> The point 'here and now' is actually the observer.
>>>
>>> So to any observer belongs his own universe, since that is actually his
>>> view about a certain reality, we cannot see directly.
>>>
>>> His view and his now and his here are in fact comoving (with him/her).
>>>
>>> This view is - of course - not really real, but an impression someone
>>> has. But everybody has one, but about a different universe.
>>>
>>> Also the axis of time is unique to any observer, since it is actually
>>> his own path through space and time, which is different for everybody.
>>>
>>> Now we view upon regions, where time does not flow into the same
>>> direction as our own timeline points, than we would also see the
>>> corresponding space distorted.
>>>
>>> In case of a black hole this space would shrink and the bent axis of
>>> time would drag us with it, hence would let us see a different universe,
>>> which belongs to that now different axis of time.
>>>
>>> In the opposite case the axis of time points towards us, hence there
>>> seem to pop things out of nowhere. There had been there before, but in
>>> this invisible space, which is not along our own past light cone.
>>>
>>> And that is the same as a black hole, but only with the axis of time
>>> pointing towards us (a 'white hole').
>>>
>>
>> Since I have made extensive use of this interpretation of relativity, I
>> would like to add a link to my 'book' about this subject.
>>
>> I regard it as important, since my interpretation would also allow a
>> different understanding of matter and fields.
>>
>> My 'book' is (still) not really a book, but a google.doc.presentation.
>> You find it here:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>>
>> I have stopped working on it in 2009, since nobody took any notice and I
>> had failed to convince someone, even if I still believe, my ideas are
>> actually correct.
>
> VERY interesting model! I love the development of cones, white holes,
> zero point and the rest. However the chances of discussing a model of
> complex valued four-vector quaternions with anyone posting here is
> well....ZERO.
>
> Your assumption of a GR continuum is I believe only an approximation.
> Math is not more real than reality.
>
> Hey, never give up.
>

Well, in a way I do not want to continue to work on this subject. It is 
a problem to maintain the ability, if you have no feedback or support.

So I have changed my 'research' and do other stuff now. Mainly I try to 
learn some more electronics and develop 'conspiracy theories'.

But maybe you like to continue to develop the concept a little further. 
You may, if you like.

Thanks anyhow, since I didn't had many readers so far.


TH

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