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Re: rotation

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity, sci.physics
Subject Re: rotation
Date 2016-02-16 08:48 +0100
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Am 14.02.2016 05:57, schrieb benj:
...
>>> Now we view upon regions, where time does not flow into the same
>>> direction as our own timeline points, than we would also see the
>>> corresponding space distorted.
>>>
>>> In case of a black hole this space would shrink and the bent axis of
>>> time would drag us with it, hence would let us see a different universe,
>>> which belongs to that now different axis of time.
>>>
>>> In the opposite case the axis of time points towards us, hence there
>>> seem to pop things out of nowhere. There had been there before, but in
>>> this invisible space, which is not along our own past light cone.
>>>
>>> And that is the same as a black hole, but only with the axis of time
>>> pointing towards us (a 'white hole').
>>>
>>
>> Since I have made extensive use of this interpretation of relativity, I
>> would like to add a link to my 'book' about this subject.
>>
>> I regard it as important, since my interpretation would also allow a
>> different understanding of matter and fields.
>>
>> My 'book' is (still) not really a book, but a google.doc.presentation.
>> You find it here:
>>
>> https://docs.google.com/present/view?id=dd8jz2tx_3gfzvqgd6
>>
>> I have stopped working on it in 2009, since nobody took any notice and I
>> had failed to convince someone, even if I still believe, my ideas are
>> actually correct.
>
> VERY interesting model! I love the development of cones, white holes,
> zero point and the rest. However the chances of discussing a model of
> complex valued four-vector quaternions with anyone posting here is
> well....ZERO.
>

The electrical engineers use complex numbers to model waves.

You could think about a wave as something spinning in the complex plane.

But, apparently, our world is not flat. So how do we model spherical waves?

Well: the trick is, to 'multiply by three'. This means, you need to 
multiply the complex plane by three and have three pointers rotating 
over three interlocking planes.

Now: how does THAT look like.

Answer: depends on the wave.

One wave could be kind of fixed in place. Such waves are candidates for 
what we call 'matter'.

Such a wave could be turned into other waves, which behave more like 
radiation, by external forces.

If we apply relativity to such radiation and base the FoR on that wave, 
the wave seems to stand still and is matter again.

With this change of the FoR we also change the timeline, since in one 
FoR the movement is in space, while in the other in time.

Now apply this concept to black holes, than the black hole is a region, 
where time 'points away' (into the future).

Now that arrow of time is reverted, hence we see something in the past, 
coming towards us. This would be a 'white hole' and similar to the big bang.


To really model this behaviour mathematically we need a certain type of 
quaternions: so called bi-quaternions, (also called complex 
valued-four-vectors).

To actually use these things I'm a little too lazy. But I can draw quite 
well, so I have made a lot of illustrations, which show how these things 
work.

A very good paper in a more mathematical fashion stems from Jonathan Scott:

http://pws.prserv.net/jonathan_scott/physics/diraceqn.pdf


TH

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