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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity
Date 2016-02-10 22:48 +1100
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On 10/02/2016 7:42 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
> W dniu środa, 10 lutego 2016 08:51:15 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>> On 10/02/2016 6:29 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>> W dniu środa, 10 lutego 2016 07:18:56 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>> On 9/02/2016 11:42 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>> W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 13:01:51 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>>>> On 9/02/2016 5:43 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote:
>>>>>>> W dniu wtorek, 9 lutego 2016 01:23:57 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else napisał:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> |One uses a real clock that is as close to being an ideal clock as one
>>>>>>>>>> |can make it.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, sure. Clocks of GPS are as close to t'=t, as it is possible.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> |What do you mean by t' = t?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You know, in the real world clocks usually have a display. Numeric
>>>>>>>>> display. If we have 2 clocks, we can compare these numbers seen
>>>>>>>>> on their sisplays...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> What they display will depend on what they're designed to do. There's no
>>>>>>>> universal law that says that they'll show the same value.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Oh, yes, there is.  We need them to do. So, either they will,
>>>>>>> or they will end in a trash can, and we will make more
>>>>>>> obedient instead.
>>>>>>> You know, outside Your precious physics there is some
>>>>>>> knowledge too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The bottom line is that if we take two accurate clocks, and put one into
>>>>>> orbit and leave one on the ground, they will not stay in step. You may
>>>>>> feel that they should, but they don't.
>>>>>
>>>>> If GPS wouldn't work, it would be accurate.
>>>>> Now it works, and it means it isn't accurate.
>>>>> To prevent clocks from being accurate we've
>>>>> corrected them. Right?
>>>>
>>>> GPS works because an allowance is made for the fact that accurate clocks
>>>> don't stay in step in this situation.
>>>
>>> So, GPS clocks aren't accurate, and we prevent
>>> them from accuracy by correcting them, because
>>> if they were accurate, we would have no use of
>>> them. Right?
>>
>> You're really fixated on a specific meaning of the word "accurate".
>
> So,GPS clocks aren't accurate, and we prevent
> them from accuracy by correcting them, because
> if they were accurate, we would have no use of
> them. Right?
> You know, using a word against its fixed meaning
> is always possible, but usually stupid.
>
>> The GPS clock is still accurate by any reasonable definition.
>
> What leads us to conclusion, that Your definition
> of accuracy isn't reasonable.
> And it isn't.
>
>>>>> Somehow, Your revolutionary theory doesn't
>>>>> convince me. Probably because of my common
>>>>> sense prejudices. But do You have any
>>>>> experiments to confirm  the accuracy of Your
>>>>> accurate clocks?
>>>>
>>>> Compare them with other accurate clocks.
>>>
>>> Fine. Why other? Why won't You simply compare it
>>> with itself?
>>
>> We know that it will match itself.
>
> And, samely, we know that it will be identical
> with any identical clock.
>
>>> Well, You're wrong. GPS clocks are these
>>> accurate clocks. Do You want a proof?
>>> Compare them with other accurate clocks...
>> GPS clocks run at a rate very similar to other GPS clocks - in orbit.
>> Bring a GPS clock down to Earth, and you'll find it running a bit slower
>> than those in orbit.
>
> Of course. So?
> I say they are accurate. On the orbit.
> Do You have any experiment refuting this
> hypothesis?
>

I don't think anyone's disputing that they're accurate, whether in orbit 
or not.

However, an accurate one in orbit does not run at the same rate as an 
accurate one on the ground.

This is just how the universe works. You want accurate clocks to run at 
the same rate everywhere, so that they stay in step. Well, that's not 
how things are.

Sylvia.

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    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-03 23:24 +1100
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                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-05 02:20 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-05 22:05 +1100
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                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 00:42 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:48 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 04:16 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 05:51 -0800
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                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 13:36 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:56 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 18:50 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 00:58 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 21:41 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 04:02 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:29 -0800
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                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Καλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-08 15:33 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:16 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-08 17:24 +0000
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:25 +0100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:24 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:53 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:02 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:43 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:20 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 23:05 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:58 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:32 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:55 +1100
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 23:13 -0800
                Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 00:04 -0800
    Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-04 06:58 -0800
      Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-04 07:58 -0800

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