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| From | Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | sci.physics.relativity |
| Subject | Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity |
| Date | 2016-02-06 19:46 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dhlq86FrlkhU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On 6/02/2016 7:23 PM, Maciej Woźniak wrote: > > > Użytkownik "Sylvia Else" napisał w wiadomości grup > dyskusyjnych:dhkvvvFlunmU1@mid.individual.net... > > On 5/02/2016 11:35 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >> W dniu piątek, 5 lutego 2016 12:05:20 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else >> napisał: >>> On 5/02/2016 9:20 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>> W dniu piątek, 5 lutego 2016 10:21:03 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else >>>> napisał: >>>>> On 5/02/2016 6:25 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>>>> W dniu piątek, 5 lutego 2016 02:18:43 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia Else >>>>>> napisał: >>>>>>> On 5/02/2016 12:11 AM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>>>>>> W dniu czwartek, 4 lutego 2016 11:59:23 UTC+1 użytkownik Sylvia >>>>>>>> Else napisał: >>>>>>>>> On 4/02/2016 8:45 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>>>>>>>> W dniu czwartek, 4 lutego 2016 09:31:57 UTC+1 użytkownik >>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else napisał: >>>>>>>>>>> On 4/02/2016 6:20 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> W dniu czwartek, 4 lutego 2016 00:15:25 UTC+1 użytkownik >>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else napisał: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 3/02/2016 11:54 PM, mlwozniak@wp.pl wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> W dniu środa, 3 lutego 2016 12:07:12 UTC+1 użytkownik >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sylvia Else napisał: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If the doors close simultaneously in Sarah's frame, then >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they don't in >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adam's frame. Both Sarah and Adam agree that the trains >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gets through >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> unscathed. How often does this paradox nonsense have to >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be debunked? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> And if Adam is going through a forest, from his own point >>>>>>>>>>>>>> of view >>>>>>>>>>>>>> he observes he is immobile and trees are running around him. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> So said a bunch of Gurus! >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Must be the truth. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> That's a pretty classic strawman - misrepresent someone's >>>>>>>>>>>>> position >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Quorting Gary: >>>>>>>>>>>> This actually Galileo's concept, but I'm glad the babbling >>>>>>>>>>>> baboon finally >>>>>>>>>>>> embraces the correct concept. >>>>>>>>>>>> End of quote. >>>>>>>>>>>> No, it isn't any misrepresentation. That's exactly >>>>>>>>>>>> what Your physics represents. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> You characterise the motion of the trees as "running around". >>>>>>>>>>> Not only >>>>>>>>>>> do the trees not run, but their motion is all in the same >>>>>>>>>>> direction, >>>>>>>>>>> being the opposite of the direction is moving in in the frame >>>>>>>>>>> of the >>>>>>>>>>> trees. So there's no sense in which it can be said to be >>>>>>>>>>> "around". >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> :) >>>>>>>>>> A nice try, but, I'm afraid, it's never as easy in >>>>>>>>>> the common language. "trees are running around him" >>>>>>>>>> can mean "trees around him" as well, as "running around >>>>>>>>>> him". >>>>>>>>>> Keep practicing, but there is still much to learn. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> So, despite the picturesque language, you're accepting that if >>>>>>>>> Adam has >>>>>>>>> a velocity v (a vector) in the frame of the trees, then the >>>>>>>>> trees have >>>>>>>>> velocity -v in Adam's frame. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No. I'm only accepting that You're saying so. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> So what do you suggest is how things work? >>>>>> >>>>>> If You mean trees, they usually don't work. >>>>>> But if You mean an observer, he works better >>>>>> when operating a single own velocity, than >>>>>> operating with thousands velocities of trees. >>>>>> Particularly, when main purpose of his all >>>>>> observations is - controlling his movement >>>>>> and avoiding killing himself by collision >>>>>> with a tree. >>>>> >>>>> All the trees have the same velocity. >>>> >>>> Yes, and it's 0. >>>> It's not about imagined twins in imagined rockets. >>>> Millions of people go through forests every day. >>>> They all consider trees as immobile from their >>>> points of view, as long, as these trees are not >>>> falling. Take ANY person form the street and ask >>>> him/her whether he/she is observing these trees/lanterns/ >>>> buildings around moving with any speed. >>>> >>>> Your brilliant relativitic "point of view of an >>>> observer" is completely primitive, and thus easy >>>> and simple enough for formalizing. And this is >>>> the end of its advantages. >>>> Nobody uses it, and nobody ever will. >>>> >>> >>> Do you understand that the purpose behind all this is to obtain a >>> correct mathematical description of the world, so that we can make >>> predictions about it? >> >> What "world" do You mean? >> These REAL people going through REAL forest - >> aren't they a part of Your "world"? How about >> these clocks of GPS, indicating t'=t in very >> clear, mathematical numbers? >> And, when this person from the street is saying >> "I went through a forest" - what do You think >> she is describing? >> What do You think GPS clocks and their indications >> are for? >> > > |Essentially, the problem for an observer is "If I make some measurement > |X, can I work out, in advance, what the result of the measurement will > be." > > So, are they a part of Your "world" or not? What are "they"? > > >>> It turns out that if we want a correct mathematical description, the >>> only thing that works is to accept that only relative velocities matter. >> >> Correct mathematical description? Of what? >> Where, exactly, in the world, can I find >> Your "correctly described" observers? > > |There are no correctly described observers. > > And, as You can't do the task correctly, instead You imagine they > are different, than they are. I have not idea what you intend by that. > > > |Well, so you say, but people spend their entire careers testing theories > |to see whether they can be found wanting. Relativity (and in particular > |general relativity) has stood those tests exceptionally well. > > Well, so You say, and unfortunately, it's a total bullshit. > > |You on the other hand, have yet to propose any single measurement whose > |result conflicts with the theory. > > Check the clocks of GPS. They indicate t'=t. Clocks indicate, so it's > a DIRECT MEASUREMENT result, right from the real world, not from > your gedankens. At the risk of raising the dreaded GPS clock topic, I'll just say that the atomic clocks on board GPS satellites are configured so that they count seconds slightly slowly compared with an accurate clock sitting next to them. They do this so that they count seconds at the same rate that a clock sitting on Earth counts them. The required adjustment was calculated using general relativity. > Game over. > > And - do You know, why they are set differently, than Your relativity > ordered to set clocks? > Because GPS is a serious device designed to do REAL measurements > and REAL calculations with the REAL results. Not a toy for people > like You to puff about their imagined wisdom. > They do what they are intended to do. Making them do that required a solid knowledge of the physics of space, time and gravity. Sylvia.
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 12:18 +1100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-06 10:52 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-06 22:34 +1100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:48 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 08:50 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 09:31 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 22:49 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 13:17 +0100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-08 13:46 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:15 +0100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:51 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 00:42 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:48 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 04:16 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 05:51 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 06:27 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 07:15 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-10 18:16 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-10 09:24 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-10 17:31 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 13:36 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-10 22:56 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 18:50 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 00:58 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-11 21:41 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 04:02 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 05:29 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-11 06:40 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 07:30 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-11 17:12 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-11 14:27 -0800
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-12 11:48 -0800
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 11:14 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 08:43 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 22:18 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 12:54 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-13 23:02 +1100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-14 18:28 +1100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-17 22:21 +1100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-18 09:19 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-19 11:23 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Stzepan Zdrobněliny <stzepan282@guadalajara.org> - 2016-02-20 22:47 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-21 13:29 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-21 10:12 +0100
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-13 16:27 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Muddy Shoes <shoes@muddyshoes.org> - 2016-02-13 15:29 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 08:28 -0800
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity paparios <paparios@gmail.com> - 2016-02-13 13:32 -0800
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Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2016-02-06 07:29 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 20:54 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity shan <shan@enterapps.org> - 2016-02-06 12:59 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 09:51 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-06 23:17 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-07 10:46 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Éibhear <eibhear@no-email.net> - 2016-02-07 00:46 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-06 15:48 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-06 18:39 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-07 10:11 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity ˌsōlər ˈpleksəs <solar@plexus.org> - 2016-02-07 19:34 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-07 14:04 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity "Paul B. Andersen" <relativity@paulba.no> - 2016-02-08 09:12 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2016-02-06 21:57 -0600
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Καλυψώ <calipso214@hotmail.com> - 2016-02-08 15:33 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity JanPB <filmart@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 09:16 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Heiðr Einherjar <einherjar@notformail.org> - 2016-02-08 17:24 +0000
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2016-02-08 18:25 +0100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 11:24 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-08 22:53 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-09 23:02 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 04:43 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 17:20 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-09 23:05 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 18:58 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-10 00:32 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2016-02-10 22:55 +1100
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity Koobee Wublee <koobee.wublee@gmail.com> - 2016-02-08 23:13 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity mlwozniak@wp.pl - 2016-02-09 00:04 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity kenseto <setoken@att.net> - 2016-02-04 06:58 -0800
Re: Einstein's Length Contraction Absurdity jamesl51165@gmail.com - 2016-02-04 07:58 -0800
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