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Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp

From Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de>
Newsgroups ger.ct
Subject Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp
Date 2015-12-24 11:13 +0100
Message-ID <de1uq4FjvuqU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
References (6 earlier) <1t567ba661i253en3e8%sfroehli@Froehlich.Priv.at> <n5gbs7$1sq$1@news.albasani.net> <n5g9mq$uf7$1@news.bawue.net> <de1ru0Fj7enU2@mid.individual.net> <n5gah5$uf7$4@news.bawue.net>

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Am 24.12.2015 um 10:25 schrieb Gerrit Heitsch:
> On 12/24/2015 10:24 AM, Michael Bode wrote:
>> Am 24.12.2015 um 10:11 schrieb Gerrit Heitsch:
>>> On 12/24/2015 09:54 AM, Dr. Joachim Neudert wrote:
>>>> Kaputt ist eMail schon. Sterben wird sie aber nicht. Eher ein
>>>> Randphänomen werden unter grauen Panthern der 386er Ära, genau wie es
>>>> der computerkundige Author in dem OP-Artikel geschrieben hat. Während
>>>> seine Familie und seine Elterngeneration vor sicherer und privater und
>>>> zuverlässiger Kommunikation nur so brummt, und er plötzlich aussen vor
>>>> ist...
>>>
>>> WhatsApp ist weder sicher noch privat. Oder haben die inzwischen
>>> Ende-zu-Ende-Verschlüsselung?
>>
>> Die Android Version schon. Man muss halt nur sicher stellen, dass man
>> niemandem schreibt, der noch was anderes benutzt. Soviel zum Thema
>> 'einfach'.
> 
> Soll heissen, wenn man zwischen 2 Android per WhatsApp Nachrichten
> austauscht kann WhatsApp selbst diese NICHT lesen?

Dann wird die gleiche Verschlüsselung benutzt wie bei Signal. Ist von
Whisper Systems lizensiert. Natürlich ist das nur in dem Sinn
verschlüsselt, wie eine S/MIME Mail mit Outlook sicher sein kann. Keine
Sourcen verfügbar, um das zu prüfen.

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Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Jörg Tewes" <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-23 14:19 +0100
  Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-23 14:48 +0100
  Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Hanno Foest <hurga-news2@tigress.com> - 2015-12-23 18:01 +0100
    Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-12-23 19:03 +0100
      Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-23 19:11 +0100
        Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2015-12-24 01:53 +0100
          Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-24 08:03 +0100
            Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-24 08:13 +0000
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-24 09:54 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 10:04 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:26 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-12-24 10:11 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 10:24 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Gerrit Heitsch <gerrit@laosinh.s.bawue.de> - 2015-12-24 10:25 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 11:13 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2015-12-24 10:52 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-24 11:29 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2015-12-24 12:31 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-24 13:16 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 13:32 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:33 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2015-12-24 14:04 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 14:22 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Hergen Lehmann <hlehmann.expires.5-11@snafu.de> - 2015-12-24 14:54 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dennis Preiser <d__p@d--p.de> - 2015-12-27 22:01 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 23:29 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dennis Preiser <d__p@d--p.de> - 2015-12-27 22:44 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-28 00:31 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Wolfgang Kynast <wky@gmx.de> - 2015-12-28 10:08 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:31 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:30 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-24 11:26 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 11:31 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-24 16:20 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:35 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-26 22:00 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 08:18 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 09:24 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:38 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 11:26 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 11:44 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 12:55 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 13:03 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 12:29 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Florian Maier <holeinone5@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 11:38 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 11:45 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-27 13:39 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-27 14:43 +0100
              Nicht Mail ist kaputt, sondern viele jene Nutzende (was: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp) "Ulrich F. Heidenreich" <from!not-for-mail@tremornet.de> - 2015-12-24 11:04 +0100
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:24 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-26 13:22 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Frank Boehm <fraboehm@gmx.de> - 2015-12-26 19:45 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-26 21:54 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-26 23:34 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-27 00:30 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 01:48 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:11 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dennis Preiser <d__p@d--p.de> - 2015-12-27 22:29 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-28 16:40 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-28 16:56 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-28 19:44 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-28 03:15 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-29 11:49 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-26 23:45 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:17 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 09:29 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:42 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 09:45 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 09:42 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 09:47 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 09:51 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 10:39 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:46 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 09:47 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 10:54 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 13:43 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 14:14 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 14:36 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 14:50 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 15:34 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 15:44 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Walter Schmid <paulwalterschmid@vtxmail.ch> - 2015-12-27 15:53 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 16:03 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2015-12-27 12:16 -0800
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-27 20:42 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 09:16 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 11:12 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 11:23 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 14:02 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-27 11:43 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 13:02 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 13:21 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-27 13:35 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 13:59 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-27 21:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 20:18 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dennis Preiser <d__p@d--p.de> - 2015-12-27 23:10 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-28 17:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-28 21:54 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-28 12:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-27 22:30 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 10:20 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 11:41 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-27 12:21 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-27 14:45 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-27 21:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-01-01 21:49 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-01-02 01:47 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2016-01-02 22:00 +0100
            Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-24 09:52 +0100
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-24 18:37 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-25 16:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-25 16:52 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Lars Gebauer <lgebauer@arcor.de> - 2015-12-25 17:30 +0100
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Frank Boehm <fraboehm@gmx.de> - 2015-12-25 20:27 +0000
            Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Gerald Gruner <gerald314@yahoo.de> - 2015-12-25 13:39 +0100
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-25 13:49 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-25 14:40 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-25 23:57 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-26 00:44 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-26 02:06 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2015-12-26 03:05 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-26 08:32 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-26 12:35 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-27 09:52 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-27 11:42 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-26 11:01 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Friederich Daumeyer <spam-yourself@none.invalid> - 2015-12-30 16:20 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-30 17:19 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Dr. Joachim Neudert <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-30 16:57 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-30 18:52 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Michael Bode <m.g.bode@web.de> - 2015-12-31 10:16 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-31 11:40 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-01-01 16:10 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-01-01 17:01 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Lars Gebauer <lars.gebauer@yahoo.de> - 2016-01-01 17:33 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-01-01 17:40 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-01-01 22:34 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-01-02 00:06 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-01-02 01:10 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Karsten Düsterloh <trash@tprac.de> - 2016-01-02 02:05 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2016-01-02 02:45 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2016-01-02 08:04 +0000
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Lothar Frings <Lothar.Frings@gmx.de> - 2016-01-01 21:54 -0800
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-31 13:12 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Friederich Daumeyer <spam-yourself@none.invalid> - 2016-01-04 10:43 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2016-01-04 11:28 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Friederich Daumeyer <spam-yourself@none.invalid> - 2016-01-04 11:58 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-26 10:58 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-26 13:22 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-26 13:36 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp spamfalle2@arcor.de (Marc Stibane) - 2015-12-26 13:22 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-26 17:08 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-26 20:48 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2015-12-26 21:03 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-26 22:10 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-26 22:12 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Fidel-Sebastian Hunrichse-Lara <Fidel-Sebastian_Hunrichse-Lara@b.maus.de> - 2015-12-26 23:42 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-27 21:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2015-12-26 23:45 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-27 21:00 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Günter Frenz <usenet-01@guefz.de> - 2015-12-27 21:49 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Martin Gerdes <martin.gerdes@gmx.de> - 2015-12-28 12:00 +0100
              Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Jörg Tewes <jogi1964@gmx.net> - 2015-12-25 23:47 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp "Dr. Joachim Neudert" <neudert@5sl.org> - 2015-12-26 08:53 +0100
                Re: Cryptomessenger vs. Whatsapp Stefan+Usenet@Froehlich.Priv.at (Stefan Froehlich) - 2015-12-26 21:59 +0000

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