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Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy?

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On 23/12/2015 3:10 PM, David Fuller wrote:
> Where is it stated that the holographic form is permanent? In the case
> of a black hole it clearly isn't.
>
> Sylvia.
>
> Holy crap you are a word twisting liar !!
>
> Everywhere you look it is implied the information comprising the in falling object is stored on the 2D surface
> Liar liar pants on fire !!!!
>
> Everything in our world is encoded with quantum mechanical information. And according to the laws of quantum mechanics, this information should never entirely disappear, no matter what happens to it. Not even if it gets sucked into a black hole.
>
> But Prof Hawking's idea is that the information doesn't make it inside the black hole at all. Instead, it's permanently encoded in a two-dimensional hologram at the surface of the black hole's event horizon.
>
> http://www.sci-news.com/physics/science-stephen-hawking-black-holes-information-03172.html
>

Where's the permanent encoding when the black hole evaporates?

Sylvia.

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Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:21 -0800
  Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:33 -0800
  Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 14:25 +1100
    Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:10 -0800
      Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 15:38 +1100
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          Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 17:30 +1100
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              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-24 11:35 +1100
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                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:50 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-29 15:09 +1100
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            Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 14:53 +0100
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