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Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy?

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy?
Date 2015-12-23 14:25 +1100
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On 20/12/2015 2:21 AM, David Fuller wrote:
> Space time is kinetic energy
> Gravity is spacetime dropping in kinetic energy
> Kinda looks like one day, every particle will slam into itself at 2*c
>
> If Suskind is right and all information entering  a black hole is stored holographically on the surface we could already be "Falling through a previous COPY of  past that already happened"
>
> Attempting time travel would destroy the copy by changing the template.
>
> Or the "holographic template" could be just one instant in time that when reached after the universe  cools to say quark confinement , time will proceed "exactly in the same steps" as last time.
> The holographic copy would only need to store the information on the surface, compressing the necessary required data by c^2
> One byte on the surface becomes c^2 bytes and we always relive the same future echoing forever
>

Where is it stated that the holographic form is permanent? In the case 
of a black hole it clearly isn't.

Sylvia.

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Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:21 -0800
  Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:33 -0800
  Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 14:25 +1100
    Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:10 -0800
      Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 15:38 +1100
        Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 21:04 -0800
          Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 17:30 +1100
            Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 06:08 -0800
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-24 11:35 +1100
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-24 12:35 +0100
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 13:52 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-28 14:46 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-29 09:49 +1100
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:30 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:50 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-29 15:09 +1100
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-29 09:22 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-30 11:37 +1100
        Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 12:07 +0100
          Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 23:58 +1100
            Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 14:53 +0100
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Carmine Portacio <unibox42@doubleclick.org> - 2015-12-23 14:01 +0000
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-24 11:27 +1100

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