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Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy?

From Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy?
Date 2015-12-23 17:30 +1100
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On 23/12/2015 4:04 PM, David Fuller wrote:
> Where's the permanent encoding when the black hole evaporates?
>
> Sylvia.
>
> It is "THEIR" theory.
> Are they just purposefully telling contradictory stories to see if people notice?

I think you've simply misunderstood.

The problem was originally that the information inside the black hole 
couldn't get out, but at the same time the black hole could evaporate, 
meaning that the information was lost. This seems to conflict with the 
law that information could not be destroyed.

The resolution is that the information is on the surface. Since it's not 
inside the black hole, there's no problem with its being evaporated away.

Sylvia.

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Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:21 -0800
  Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-19 07:33 -0800
  Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 14:25 +1100
    Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 20:10 -0800
      Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 15:38 +1100
        Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-22 21:04 -0800
          Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 17:30 +1100
            Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-23 06:08 -0800
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-24 11:35 +1100
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                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-29 09:49 +1100
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:30 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? David Fuller <fuller.david@hotmail.com> - 2015-12-28 19:50 -0800
                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-29 15:09 +1100
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                Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-30 11:37 +1100
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          Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-23 23:58 +1100
            Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Maciej Woźniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2015-12-23 14:53 +0100
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Carmine Portacio <unibox42@doubleclick.org> - 2015-12-23 14:01 +0000
              Re: Does Suskind's holographic model allow for time travel because the 3D data is permanently stored in a 2D Copy? Sylvia Else <sylvia@not.at.this.address> - 2015-12-24 11:27 +1100

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