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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
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| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle |
| Date | 2015-10-09 15:24 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d7q4hoFrucU4@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 11:19:22 -0400, Ezekiel wrote: > "Lloyd Parsons" <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote in message > news:d7q326Fj2eU1@mid.individual.net... >> On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:45:23 -0400, DFS wrote: >> >>> On 10/8/2015 7:38 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote: >>>> ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties: >>>> >>>>> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:07:12 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On 8 Oct 2015 17:43:31 GMT Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> The one place you don't want to be in phones is with Android. >>>>>>> Between Samsung sucking up the majority of the profits, the >>>>>>> Chinese low quality mfgs picking up almost all of what's left, >>>>>>> there just isn't any money to be made making an Android phone for >>>>>>> anyone else. >>>>>>> >>>>>> Bullshit. >>>>> >>>>> Where does the lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy "Lloyd" thinks >>>>> iPhones are made? Elf Land? >>>>> >>>>> But "somehow" Android has managed to take 80% - 85% of the worldwide >>>>> market. And Windows Phone is ... where? Under 5%? iPhones at about >>>>> 12%? Yeah, Apple's and Windows' phones are taking the world by >>>>> storm. >>>>> NOT. >>>> >>>> Well, Apple's phones are doing pretty well. >>> >>> >>> Far better than "pretty well": Apple earned 92% of the smartphone >>> industry's profit in 1Q15... >>> >>> >>> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/07/apple-makes-92-percent-of-all- >> smartphone-profits/ >> >> While I know that is fact, it is also just nuts! :) >> >> Personally I don't like Android, but it isn't like it is horrible or >> anything. You have to look directly at Google to see why Android can >> garner such a huge share of the market while making less than 8% of the >> profits. > > Those are pretty crazy figures. Fortunately for them, Apple is in the > enviable position of not having to compete with dozens of other > manufacturers who are making the exact same product. The financials are > similar in the PC (desktop/laptop) market as well for Macs vs PCs. > > >> They made it somewhat 'open and free' but not quite. They didn't put >> any real controls in the distribution/update/upgrade methodology. So >> you get this hybrid that is allowed on virtually anything from anybody, >> that will get updates/upgrades on whatever basis the device mfg or >> carrier decides is appropriate. And since there are no teeth in the >> guidelines for providing Android to the mfgs, you get any and all into >> the mix. >> >> Meanwhile back at the Google ranch, Google rakes in the profits from >> their product, that product being customer data. If Android died >> tomorrow, Google would still be making those fat profits. In the >> meantime mfgs are struggling to make any profits from screwing with >> Android. > > Google doesn't care at all if all these Android manufacturers are > cannibalizing each other selling the phones with practically zero profit > margin. Why should they? It doesn't matter to Google if the > manufacturer makes $100/phone or a penny/phone or if they lose money. > > As long as someone is pumping out Android phones into the hands of > consumers then Google is getting what they want. Bummer for the > companies that actually make the smartphones. Brilliant business move on > Google's part. > Absolutely!! Google is run by some very sharp cookies!! >> For Google, Android was a way to get more eyeballs and fingers involved >> with Google, which explains why Android is in the mess it is. Long >> term I'm not sure Android will survive. Not because it isn't good >> enough, but because those that want to sell devices with it cannot >> sustain their goals by selling those devices. >> >> > There will be someone making Android phones. There are only a very few > number of handset makers who can afford to develop their own phone-OS to > compete against Android. Creating the OS will be the easy part, creating > the ecosystem and getting the partnerships and developers onboard to > write apps is going to be much more difficult. > > So Android will stick around for the foreseeable future. But most of the > manufacturers won't. Companies like Sony, HTC, LG, Lenovo, etc will > eventually get out and cut their losses. That will leave enough money > for the others to get by. It'll become like the PC market. A few players > all selling the same commodity item at razor-thin margins. Sadly I think you are right. I still have hope that MS can pull the hat out of the rabbit and get some traction for WP. Personally I like WP better than both iOS and Android. -- Lloyd
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Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 12:29 -0500
You've got that wrong... it is LINUX that is deemed the kiss of death. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 14:58 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-07 20:31 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 02:37 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-07 21:17 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:37 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-07 20:42 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:50 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:12 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:48 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-08 12:14 +0100
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:13 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:48 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:50 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 10:18 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-09 10:18 +0100
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:58 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-12 09:36 +0100
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:05 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:10 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:09 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:16 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:42 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:22 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:25 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:33 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:39 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:41 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0100
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 08:45 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:43 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 20:07 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:10 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:18 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 10:58 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:22 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:26 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:10 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:28 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:57 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:01 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:03 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:09 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:14 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:17 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 17:40 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 22:02 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 18:21 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:00 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:20 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 06:55 -0500
Says the phoney with his imaginary BSEE. LOL!!! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:26 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:01 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:04 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:06 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:10 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:38 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:42 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:07 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:14 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:19 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:44 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:53 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:55 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:21 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:33 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:13 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:57 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 01:18 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:23 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:27 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:09 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:31 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:25 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 10:46 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:17 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-10 10:30 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:19 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 11:53 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:18 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:29 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:13 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 16:08 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-10 19:53 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 01:17 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 02:34 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 10:24 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 17:48 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:24 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:32 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:41 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:15 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 08:06 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:15 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 14:33 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:17 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:27 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:30 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:56 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:58 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:35 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:12 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 10:45 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 14:59 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:19 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 15:24 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-09 18:26 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:14 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:26 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:33 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-12 09:16 -0700
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:29 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:57 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:52 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-10 08:35 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 11:13 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 14:23 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-10 15:40 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 21:30 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-11 07:30 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 11:57 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 18:14 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 16:03 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:31 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 13:51 -0600
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:37 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:41 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:03 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 07:35 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:52 +0000
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:38 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:11 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:22 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:29 -0500
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:37 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:46 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:10 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:49 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 10:59 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-10 17:03 +0200
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-13 09:10 -0400
Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:36 -0400
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