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Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle

From Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle
Date 2015-10-09 14:59 +0000
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On Fri, 09 Oct 2015 10:45:23 -0400, DFS wrote:

> On 10/8/2015 7:38 PM, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
>> ronb wrote this copyrighted missive and expects royalties:
>>
>>> On Thu, 08 Oct 2015 20:07:12 +0200, Melzzzzz wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 8 Oct 2015 17:43:31 GMT Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> The one place you don't want to be in phones is with Android.
>>>>> Between Samsung sucking up the majority of the profits, the Chinese
>>>>> low quality mfgs picking up almost all of what's left, there just
>>>>> isn't any money to be made making an Android phone for anyone else.
>>>>>
>>>> Bullshit.
>>>
>>> Where does the lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy "Lloyd" thinks iPhones
>>> are made? Elf Land?
>>>
>>> But "somehow" Android has managed to take 80% - 85% of the worldwide
>>> market. And Windows Phone is ... where? Under 5%? iPhones at about
>>> 12%? Yeah, Apple's and Windows' phones are taking the world by storm.
>>> NOT.
>>
>> Well, Apple's phones are doing pretty well.
> 
> 
> Far better than "pretty well": Apple earned 92% of the smartphone
> industry's profit in 1Q15...
> 
> 
> http://arstechnica.com/apple/2015/07/apple-makes-92-percent-of-all-
smartphone-profits/

While I know that is fact, it is also just nuts!  :)

Personally I don't like Android, but it isn't like it is horrible or 
anything.  You have to look directly at Google to see why Android can 
garner such a huge share of the market while making less than 8% of the 
profits.

They made it somewhat 'open and free' but not quite.  They didn't put any 
real controls in the distribution/update/upgrade methodology.  So you get 
this hybrid that is allowed on virtually anything from anybody, that will 
get updates/upgrades on whatever basis the device mfg or carrier decides 
is appropriate.  And since there are no teeth in the guidelines for 
providing Android to the mfgs, you get any and all into the mix.

Meanwhile back at the Google ranch, Google rakes in the profits from 
their product, that product being customer data.  If Android died 
tomorrow, Google would still be making those fat profits.  In the 
meantime mfgs are struggling to make any profits from screwing with 
Android.

For Google, Android was a way to get more eyeballs and fingers involved 
with Google, which explains why Android is in the mess it is.  Long term 
I'm not sure Android will survive.  Not because it isn't good enough, but 
because those that want to sell devices with it cannot sustain their 
goals by selling those devices.




-- 
Lloyd

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Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 12:29 -0500
  You've got that wrong... it is LINUX that is deemed the kiss of death. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 14:58 -0600
  Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-07 20:31 -0400
    Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 02:37 +0200
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-07 21:17 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:37 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-07 20:42 -0500
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:50 +0200
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:12 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:48 +0000
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-08 12:14 +0100
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:13 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:48 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:50 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 10:18 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-09 10:18 +0100
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-12 09:36 +0100
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:05 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:10 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:09 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:16 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:42 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:22 -0400
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:25 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:33 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:39 -0400
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:41 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0100
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 08:45 -0400
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:43 +0000
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 20:07 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:10 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:18 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 10:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:22 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:26 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:10 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:28 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:57 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:01 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:03 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:09 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:17 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 17:40 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 22:02 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 18:21 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:00 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:20 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 06:55 -0500
                Says the phoney with his imaginary BSEE.  LOL!!! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:26 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:01 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:04 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:06 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:10 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:38 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:42 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:07 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:14 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:19 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:44 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:53 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:55 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:21 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:33 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:13 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:57 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 01:18 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:23 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:27 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:09 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:31 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:25 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 10:46 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:17 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-10 10:30 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:19 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 11:53 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:18 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:29 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:13 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 16:08 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-10 19:53 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 01:17 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 02:34 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 10:24 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 17:48 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:24 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:32 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:41 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:15 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 08:06 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:15 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 14:33 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:17 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:27 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:30 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:56 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:35 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:12 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 10:45 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 14:59 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:19 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 15:24 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-09 18:26 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:14 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:26 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:33 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-12 09:16 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:29 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:57 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:52 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-10 08:35 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 11:13 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 14:23 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-10 15:40 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 21:30 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-11 07:30 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 11:57 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 18:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 16:03 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:31 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 13:51 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:37 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:41 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:03 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 07:35 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:52 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:38 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:11 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:22 -0500
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:29 -0500
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:37 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:46 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:10 -0400
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:49 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 10:59 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-10 17:03 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-13 09:10 -0400
    Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:36 -0400

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