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Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle

From	Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle
Date	2015-10-12 14:33 +0000
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On Mon, 12 Oct 2015 09:26:09 -0500, chrisv wrote:

> Mel wrote:
> 
>> Lying Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>
>>> For Google, Android was a way to get more eyeballs and fingers
>>> involved with Google, which explains why Android is in the mess it is.
>>> Long term I'm not sure Android will survive.  Not because it isn't
>>> good enough, but because those that want to sell devices with it
>>> cannot sustain their goals by selling those devices.
>>
>> More Bullshit
> 
> Llying Lloyd is so ignorant of basic economics that he doesn't know that
> if normal profits cannot be obtained in a market due to oversupply,
> vendors will leave the market until equilibrium is (roughly) obtained.
> 
> That's how free markets work, it happens all the time, and there's
> nothing wrong with that.
> 
> Llying Lloyd is either too stupid understand, or too dishonest to admit,
> there is not one thing that is usual about the Android-based
> mobile-device market.

What the hell are you babbling about?

The Android market from the business side is in deep trouble.  Profits 
are small and few in number with only Samsung making any real money off 
of it, and even they are seeing lower sales and profits over the last 7 
quarters.

The whole mobile market is really weird.  You've got Apple taking about 
90% of the profits in it and all the rest of the market fighting over 
that roughly 10% that's left.  

For Android that means that more mfgs will drop out of the market since 
it is not in their best interest to stick with it.  That will eventually 
mean that the premium end of the Android devices will go away and the 
only thing left will be the 'flip phone' of the Android market.  IOW, mid 
to low range phones where the profits are at their slimmest.

Samsung is fighting the good fight with their premium Android stuff, but 
for how long?  MS is trying like hell to penetrate the market and may 
very well succeed if they can get their 'universal' platform going well.

-- 
Lloyd

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Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-07 12:29 -0500
  You've got that wrong... it is LINUX that is deemed the kiss of death. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 14:58 -0600
  Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-07 20:31 -0400
    Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 02:37 +0200
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-07 21:17 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:37 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-07 20:42 -0500
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 03:50 +0200
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:12 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:48 +0000
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-08 12:14 +0100
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:13 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:48 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:50 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 10:18 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-09 10:18 +0100
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Desk Rabbit <me@example.com> - 2015-10-12 09:36 +0100
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:05 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:10 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:09 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:16 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:42 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 12:22 -0400
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:25 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:33 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 12:39 -0400
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:41 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-08 13:13 +0100
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 08:45 -0400
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 13:30 -0400
            Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:43 +0000
              Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 20:07 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 18:10 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:18 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 10:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-08 14:22 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 13:26 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:10 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:28 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:57 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:01 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:03 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:09 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:17 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 17:40 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 22:02 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 18:21 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 16:00 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:20 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 06:55 -0500
                Says the phoney with his imaginary BSEE.  LOL!!! GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-08 23:36 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 20:26 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:01 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:04 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 21:06 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 17:10 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:38 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:42 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:07 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:14 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:19 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:44 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:53 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:55 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:21 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:33 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:13 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 20:57 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 01:18 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 08:23 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:27 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:09 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:31 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:25 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 10:46 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:17 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-10 10:30 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:19 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 11:53 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:18 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:29 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:13 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-10 16:08 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-10 19:53 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 01:17 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-11 02:34 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 10:24 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 17:48 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:24 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:32 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-09 12:41 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 16:15 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 08:06 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 13:09 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:15 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 14:33 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:17 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:27 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:30 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-08 17:56 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 20:58 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle JEDIDIAH <jedi@nomad.mishnet> - 2015-10-09 10:35 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:12 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 10:45 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 14:59 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 11:19 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 15:24 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Mel <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-09 18:26 +0200
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 16:27 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-09 14:14 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:26 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 14:33 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2015-10-12 09:16 -0700
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-12 16:29 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-12 09:57 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:52 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-10 08:35 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 11:13 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 14:23 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-10 15:40 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-10 21:30 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd  E Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-11 07:30 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 11:57 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 18:14 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-11 16:03 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-11 22:31 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-13 13:51 -0600
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-08 19:37 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-08 19:41 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 00:03 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-09 07:35 -0500
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-09 12:52 +0000
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-09 09:38 -0400
                Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-09 11:11 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:22 -0500
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-08 07:29 -0500
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:37 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-08 16:46 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 12:10 -0400
      Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-09 19:49 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-10 10:59 -0400
        Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-10 17:03 +0200
          Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-13 09:10 -0400
    Re: Micro$oft's smartphone debacle "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-08 09:36 -0400

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