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Re: Five years of LibreOffice.

From Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject Re: Five years of LibreOffice.
Date 2015-10-03 17:20 +0000
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On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:51:01 +0000, vallor wrote:

> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 16:08:35 +0000, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
> 
>> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 08:55:55 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>> 
>>> On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 8:48:33 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote:
>>>> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:43:12 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 7:09:01 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons
>>>> > wrote:
>>>> >> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:26:04 +0000, ronb wrote:
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> > On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 23:03:26 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote:
>>>> >> > 
>>>> >> >> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled:
>>>> >> >> 
>>>> >> >>> On 10/2/15, 1:40 PM, in article mumq34$5q1$7@dont-email.me,
>>>> >> >>> "ronb"
>>>> >> >>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >>>> On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:18:49 -0500, chrisv wrote:
>>>> >> >>>> 
>>>> >> >>>>> Sheesh, what an ignorant, arrogant jackass, "Lloyd" is.
>>>> >> >>>> 
>>>> >> >>>> Just a lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy,
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >>> Your name calling shows your lack of confidence in your own
>>>> >> >>> views.
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >>>> who (apparently) has more time on his hands than brains.
>>>> >> >>>> Otherwise, how can you explain his 24/7 bitter drooling in a
>>>> >> >>>> newsgroup dedicated to promoting an OS that he believes is a
>>>> >> >>>> failure and one that he hates. Again, his actions speak
>>>> >> >>>> louder than his lying words.
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >>> He has not shown any hatred toward Linux. You made that up.
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >>> 
>>>> >> >> Yet another example of your incredibly bad reading
>>>> >> >> comprehension
>>>> >> > 
>>>> >> > Yes, "Snit," he loves Linux. That's why he 24/7 froths against
>>>> >> > it in a Linux advocacy newsgroup.
>>>> >> >
>>>> >> Since I don't 'froth' against it and certainly not 24/7, your
>>>> >> premise is bogus as are most of your arguments.
>>>> >>  
>>>> >> > We're simply not as stupid as you need us to be for your idiot
>>>> >> > tactics to succeed, "Snit."
>>>> >> 
>>>> >> Yes, you are correct.  You aren't as stupid as you need to be,
>>>> >> you're well past that when it comes to how to make a product
>>>> >> successful.  You 'advocates' get hung up in the tech side of linux
>>>> >> and that doesn't mean diddly squat to marketing/sales and a
>>>> >> successful product.  Linux on the desktop could be marketed if the
>>>> >> community would get out of the way.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Towards what end and for whom? Are the trolls in COLA worried that
>>>> > Linux is on the verge of disappearing? Logically, aside from
>>>> > trolling, that would be the only genuine concern worth putting in
>>>> > so much time and effort. Now that the obvious is out of the way ;)
>>>> > 
>>>> > But let's pretend you're not trolling, that you're actually trying
>>>> > to have a rational discussion. Here's the reality:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Linux isn't in danger of disappearing. Why do I say this?
>>>> > 
>>>> > Consider your previous position:
>>>> > 
>>>> > Marketing? What is that and why is it ever done?
>>>> > 
>>>> > One you come up with a functional (and rational) answer you realize
>>>> > that Linux isn't in a 'market', per se, and any attempt to put it
>>>> > there is misplaced. We all know, on some level, if you want your
>>>> > product to stand a sliver of a chance of surviving the rigors of
>>>> > the marketplace you must market it in that space in some way. This
>>>> > is just simple commons sense. Because the collective efforts
>>>> > required to produce and maintain it are given away, Linux will
>>>> > survive no matter what. Linux isn't constrained by the normal
>>>> > 'marketplace' issues that people try to foist upon it. The
>>>> > motivations behind Linux are so drastically different that 'apples
>>>> > to oranges' comparisons are an extreme understatement, 'apples to
>>>> > penguins'
>>>> > is a more apt comparison.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Trolling is all well and good but it's pretty silly to pretend
>>>> > you're having a rational discussion in this scenario. If you're
>>>> > really what you claim, you, better than most in COLA, know all of
>>>> > this.
>>>> 
>>>> There are two sides to the linux desktop coin.  One is the
>>>> 'community'
>>>> which likes the open and free nature of Linux and doesn't want that
>>>> ever to change.  The other is companies like Canonical that would
>>>> like at least a modicum of success in their commercialization
>>>> efforts.
>>> 
>>> This is what I don't get about your claim... Canonical isn't selling
>>> Linux, per se, that they're making use of it to sell what they do sell
>>> shouldn't confuse someone with your background. C'mon... are you being
>>> honest about it?
>>>
>> While Canonical isn't trying to sell their distro in any meaningful
>> way,
>> they are trying to use it to bootstrap their ecosystem.  And not being
>> successful at it I might add.
> 
>  ...but pay no attention to Red Hat and SuSE behind that curtain,
>  Dorothy!
> 
> Gah.


I'm not ignoring them.  Is SuSE making any money at it?  I know Red Hat 
is.



-- 
Lloyd

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Five years of LibreOffice. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-01 23:03 +0100
  Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:28 +0000
    Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 00:33 +0200
      Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:50 +0000
        Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 00:54 +0200
          Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 23:02 +0000
            Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-01 19:07 -0400
          Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-02 07:18 -0500
            Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 12:30 +0000
            Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-02 09:42 -0400
            Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 20:40 +0000
              Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 13:55 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 23:03 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 14:22 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 02:26 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 23:32 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 08:12 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 13:08 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 07:43 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:48 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 10:54 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 08:55 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:08 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-03 16:51 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:20 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-03 23:34 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:30 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:32 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:39 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 02:25 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 19:46 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 23:09 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 05:20 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 00:18 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 06:28 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 00:31 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 06:32 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 23:53 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:49 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 19:18 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 07:35 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-05 14:40 +0100
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 09:06 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-05 09:10 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 11:36 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 15:42 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-05 12:33 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 16:43 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 13:40 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 15:26 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 18:02 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-05 17:39 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 13:32 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:55 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-05 15:22 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 17:52 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 22:14 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 21:49 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 15:21 -0600
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 15:20 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 13:00 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:24 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:52 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-03 17:08 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:19 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 10:29 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 10:02 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-03 23:31 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:39 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 14:48 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:01 +0200
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:20 -0700
                Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:28 +0200
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:41 -0400
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:47 -0700
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 19:13 -0400
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 10:20 +0200
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-04 09:48 -0700
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 18:54 +0200
                Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-04 10:03 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:51 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 14:49 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 09:00 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-05 09:05 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-04 08:38 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 12:48 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-04 09:11 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:26 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 12:05 -0400
              Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-02 22:46 -0500
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 08:32 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 13:06 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 09:50 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:16 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 10:47 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 07:46 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:53 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:00 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:05 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:17 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:16 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-03 11:20 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:01 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-03 12:08 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:13 -0700
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 12:29 -0400
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 12:57 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:20 +0000
                Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:37 +0000
      Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-02 11:38 -0400
    Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 15:41 -0700
  Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:29 +0000
  Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-01 20:43 -0400

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