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| From | Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.os.linux.advocacy |
| Subject | Re: Five years of LibreOffice. |
| Date | 2015-10-03 14:48 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <d7a85sFa5sU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | (7 earlier) <D2343D6B.5E7D9%usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> <mumrb5$h50$1@dont-email.me> <munebr$51j$6@dont-email.me> <d7a2baFt8hiU3@mid.individual.net> <64f8539a-8817-4443-a16a-67011e1db008@googlegroups.com> |
On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 07:43:12 -0700, Steve Carroll wrote: > On Saturday, October 3, 2015 at 7:09:01 AM UTC-6, Lloyd Parsons wrote: >> On Sat, 03 Oct 2015 02:26:04 +0000, ronb wrote: >> >> > On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 23:03:26 +0200, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> > >> >> The lying imbecile Snit Michael Glasser babbled: >> >> >> >>> On 10/2/15, 1:40 PM, in article mumq34$5q1$7@dont-email.me, "ronb" >> >>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >> >>>> On Fri, 02 Oct 2015 07:18:49 -0500, chrisv wrote: >> >>>> >> >>>>> Sheesh, what an ignorant, arrogant jackass, "Lloyd" is. >> >>>> >> >>>> Just a lemon-sucking, bitter old biddy, >> >>> >> >>> Your name calling shows your lack of confidence in your own views. >> >>> >> >>>> who (apparently) has more time on his hands than brains. >> >>>> Otherwise, how can you explain his 24/7 bitter drooling in a >> >>>> newsgroup dedicated to promoting an OS that he believes is a >> >>>> failure and one that he hates. Again, his actions speak louder >> >>>> than his lying words. >> >>> >> >>> He has not shown any hatred toward Linux. You made that up. >> >>> >> >>> >> >> Yet another example of your incredibly bad reading comprehension >> > >> > Yes, "Snit," he loves Linux. That's why he 24/7 froths against it in >> > a Linux advocacy newsgroup. >> > >> Since I don't 'froth' against it and certainly not 24/7, your premise >> is bogus as are most of your arguments. >> >> > We're simply not as stupid as you need us to be for your idiot >> > tactics to succeed, "Snit." >> >> Yes, you are correct. You aren't as stupid as you need to be, you're >> well past that when it comes to how to make a product successful. You >> 'advocates' get hung up in the tech side of linux and that doesn't mean >> diddly squat to marketing/sales and a successful product. Linux on the >> desktop could be marketed if the community would get out of the way. > > Towards what end and for whom? Are the trolls in COLA worried that Linux > is on the verge of disappearing? Logically, aside from trolling, that > would be the only genuine concern worth putting in so much time and > effort. Now that the obvious is out of the way ;) > > But let's pretend you're not trolling, that you're actually trying to > have a rational discussion. Here's the reality: > > Linux isn't in danger of disappearing. Why do I say this? > > Consider your previous position: > > Marketing? What is that and why is it ever done? > > One you come up with a functional (and rational) answer you realize that > Linux isn't in a 'market', per se, and any attempt to put it there is > misplaced. We all know, on some level, if you want your product to stand > a sliver of a chance of surviving the rigors of the marketplace you must > market it in that space in some way. This is just simple commons sense. > Because the collective efforts required to produce and maintain it are > given away, Linux will survive no matter what. Linux isn't constrained > by the normal 'marketplace' issues that people try to foist upon it. The > motivations behind Linux are so drastically different that 'apples to > oranges' comparisons are an extreme understatement, 'apples to penguins' > is a more apt comparison. > > Trolling is all well and good but it's pretty silly to pretend you're > having a rational discussion in this scenario. If you're really what you > claim, you, better than most in COLA, know all of this. There are two sides to the linux desktop coin. One is the 'community' which likes the open and free nature of Linux and doesn't want that ever to change. The other is companies like Canonical that would like at least a modicum of success in their commercialization efforts. They are at direct odds because what is good for Linux desktop from a commercial/marketing standpoint isn't so good for the open and free nature of the Linux community. I would like to see Linux desktop evolve to the point that it could be marketed and grow. If the 'community' is happy with a miniscule share of the market, then the open and free nature ensures that will be the case going forward. No trolling involved... :) -- Lloyd
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Five years of LibreOffice. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-01 23:03 +0100
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:28 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 00:33 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:50 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 00:54 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 23:02 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-01 19:07 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-02 07:18 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 12:30 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-02 09:42 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-02 20:40 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 13:55 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-02 23:03 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 14:22 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 02:26 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-02 23:32 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 08:12 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 13:08 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 07:43 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:48 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 10:54 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 08:55 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:08 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-03 16:51 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:20 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-03 23:34 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:30 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:32 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:39 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:40 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 02:25 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 19:46 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 23:09 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 05:20 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 00:18 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 06:28 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 00:31 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-10-04 06:32 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 23:53 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:49 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 19:18 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 07:35 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. William Poaster <wp@dev.null> - 2015-10-05 14:40 +0100
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 09:06 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-05 09:10 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 11:36 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 15:42 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-05 12:33 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 16:43 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 13:40 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 15:26 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 18:02 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-05 17:39 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 13:32 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 17:55 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Onion Knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-05 15:22 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 17:52 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-05 22:14 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. nom de plume <nomdeplume@stickybit.guru> - 2015-10-05 21:49 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. GreyCloud <cumulus@mist.com> - 2015-10-07 15:21 -0600
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 15:20 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-05 13:00 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:24 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:52 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2015-10-03 17:08 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 17:19 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 10:29 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 10:02 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-03 23:31 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 21:39 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 14:48 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:01 +0200
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:20 -0700
Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 00:28 +0200
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 18:41 -0400
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 15:47 -0700
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-03 19:13 -0400
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 10:20 +0200
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-04 09:48 -0700
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Peter Köhlmann <peter-koehlmann@t-online.de> - 2015-10-04 18:54 +0200
Re: Snit Michael Glasser admits he as claiming bullshit Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-04 10:03 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 15:51 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2015-10-03 14:49 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2015-10-05 09:00 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp21@live.com> - 2015-10-05 09:05 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-04 08:38 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 12:48 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "Ezekiel" <zeke@nosuchemail.com> - 2015-10-04 09:11 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-04 14:26 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. "A.M" <.m@nsn.s> - 2015-10-04 12:05 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Nobody <nobody@invalid.com> - 2015-10-02 22:46 -0500
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 08:32 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 13:06 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 09:50 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:16 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 10:47 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 07:46 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 14:53 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:00 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:05 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:17 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 16:16 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-03 11:20 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:01 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-03 12:08 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 09:13 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. onion knight <onionknight@linuxmail.org> - 2015-10-03 12:29 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 12:57 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:20 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Lloyd Parsons <lloydp211@gmail.com> - 2015-10-03 19:37 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. DFS <nospam@dfs.com> - 2015-10-02 11:38 -0400
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 15:41 -0700
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 22:29 +0000
Re: Five years of LibreOffice. Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2015-10-01 20:43 -0400
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