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Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV )

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV )
Date 2015-08-28 19:10 +0200
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Am 28.08.2015 11:17, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
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.
>>>> So we see: the hypothesis looks like a law. Whether it is a valid law,
>>>> that is a question of debate.
>>>
>>>        A hypothesis never looks like scientific law. Never.
>>
>> Obviously we disagree about the terms 'science', 'law' and 'hypothesis'.
>>
>
>       I use the accepted definition, where, as always, you make up your
> own.
>
>> As I refer to what Karl Popper called 'scientific method' and you
>> disagree, you seem to have a different understanding about science.
>>
>
>       You clearly know nothing of the scientific method.
>
>> In my world the form of a hypothesis is that of a scientific law. The
>> FORM is that of a law, even if its validity is still debated. (So: a
>> hypothesis is not a law, even if it looks similar.)
>>
>> Then the wrong laws are sorted out and what remains is promoted to
>> 'theory'.
>>
>
>       If it's a law, it can't be demoted to theory.


In the logic of Karl Popper the term 'theory' is equivalent to what you 
call 'law'.

What you regard as a law (in nature) is something like a proven fact 
about how things behave in certain circumstances.

Such laws do not exist (in the method of Popper), because you cannot 
know, if these laws are actually valid universal.

Instead he assumes a system, where a hypothesis is build, which should 
describe some kind of process.

This hypothesis has the same form as a theory, only it is still in 
debate. It is actually an assumption (or: guess).

By various means this assumption will be tested. Popper suggest, the 
hypothesis should be tried to be refuted.

If this fails, the hypothesis is promoted to a theory (or 'law, if you 
prefer that).

e.g. have a look at:
http://physics.ucr.edu/~wudka/Physics7/Notes_www/node6.html



TH

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                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-21 07:32 +0200
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