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Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV )

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Am 27.08.2015 11:12, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):

>>>        The problem is that you present your guesses and assumptions as
>>> scientific law.
>>>
>>
>> This is so, because that's the correct form of a hypothesis.
>>
>> This form does not make it a law, even if it looks like that.
>>
>> E.g. I create the 'law', that all swans are white.
>>
>> This is a valid statement, but it's obviously wrong, even if it looks
>> like a law of nature.
>>
>> It is falsified by the appearance of a black swan. And so I modify my
>> statement and claim, that all swans are either black or white.
>>
>> But then someone says, that green swans exist and this 'law' turns out
>> to be wrong, too.
>>
>
>       Scientific law is never absolute.

???

What do you mean with this statement?

If you don't require a term like 'valid for all...' you have no rule at 
all.

If a law is only valid in - say - 90 % of the cases and invalid in 10%, 
you couldn't call that a law.

There are certain observations, which could be described in a 
statistical way. Such statistics are also 'laws' (of nature).

But I don't like to call that 'law', even if such statistics describe 
certain aspects of nature, since with 'law' you mean something 
universally valid.

>
>> Only, we don't know, if green swans exist, since nobody has ever seen
>> one. But this does mean, that no such swans exist somewhere.
>>
>> So we see: the hypothesis looks like a law. Whether it is a valid law,
>> that is a question of debate.
>
>       A hypothesis never looks like scientific law. Never.
>

Obviously we disagree about the terms 'science', 'law' and 'hypothesis'.

As I refer to what Karl Popper called 'scientific method' and you 
disagree, you seem to have a different understanding about science.

In my world the form of a hypothesis is that of a scientific law. The 
FORM is that of a law, even if its validity is still debated. (So: a 
hypothesis is not a law, even if it looks similar.)

Then the wrong laws are sorted out and what remains is promoted to 
'theory'.

There are, of course, other ways to understand the process, by what 
scientific laws are created. And from these stem other requirements, 
like about proof or measurements.

But I try to apply the so called 'scientific method' and try to create 
assumptions, that cannot be refuted.

This is difficult, since it is much easier to find something wrong and 
only few assumptions are not. But at least someone should try to find 
these few solutions. Once you have one, this is presented in the form of 
a universal law. And it will remain universally valid, until someone is 
able to disprove it.


TH

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Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-25 07:13 +0200
  Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 04:09 -0500
    Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-25 23:47 +0200
      Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 21:14 -0500
        Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-26 06:46 +0200
          Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 03:57 -0500
            Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-26 21:25 +0200
              Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 04:12 -0500
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-28 05:16 +0200
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 04:17 -0500
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-08-28 19:10 +0200
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 18:36 -0500
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-09-02 07:41 +0200
                Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 04:13 -0500
  Re: Rocky's beliefs ( gave a photo of hypocenter 2 FNV ) HVAC <Mr.HVAC@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 06:51 -0400

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