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Re: Rocky's beliefs ( Michael M is a TV Hugger )

From moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
Newsgroups alt.conspiracy, sci.physics
Subject Re: Rocky's beliefs ( Michael M is a TV Hugger )
Date 2015-08-23 03:35 +0000
Organization The World : www.TheWorld.com : Since 1989
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"Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> writes:

>"Michael Moroney" <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> wrote in message 
>news:mr7eel$h5t$1@pcls7.std.com...
>> "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> kooked:
>>
>>>And don't forget there are plenty of similarities between a nuke and the
>>>Twin Towers.  See:
>>
>>>1.  There was a mushroom cloud from the Twin Towers.
>>
>> No, there wasn't.

>Did you even bother to watch the following video:

Actually, I did, at least the part mentioned.  But I didn't bother with
the rest of your propaganda.

>>>2.  People there described the ground shaking event as if there was a 5.5
>>>quake instead of a 2.3.
>>
>> Yet seismometers the world over didn't record anything larger than a 2.3.
>> And none recorded with the characteristics of a nuclear detonation.

>Oh yes and since when do 2.3s get recorded on video?  <G>

Usually the hypocenter is well below ground, perhaps miles.  Not in this
case.

The fact remains that no seismometer recorded a 5.5 earthquake there.
Not even seismometers in countries unfriendly to the US or run by 
hobbyists, out of control of the boogeymen you imagine created some
conspiracy.  In particular, no earthquakes, of any magnitude, that has the
distinctive pattern a nuclear weapon makes.

There is simply no hiding a 5.5 magnitude earthquake.
There is simply no hiding a nuclear weapon detonation on or under the
earth's surface.
Those two facts are proof positive that there were no nuclear weapons
detonated under the WTC.  Period.

No radiation contaminating NYC, no EMP, no mushroom cloud, shall I go on?

>>>3.  Videos caught the ground shaking and does that happen with just 2.3
>>>quakes?  <G>
>>
>> Yes, if you're right on top of the epicenter, like anyone close to the
>> towers were!

>And your supporing evidence is what?

1) The tower shook, as evidenced by the video.
2) There definitely was no 5.5 earthquake anywhere near there, but there 
was a 2.3 equivalent there.


>>>4.  There is a very clear photo of the hypocenter that was under WTC4
>>
>> No there wasn't.

>You obviously didn't compare the alleged Ice age pothole to a real ice age 
>pothole.

I have seen real glacial potholes in western Massachusetts.  That photo 
looked like them.

>>> and
>>>the walls of that hypocenter are consistent with the spread pattern of the
>>>nuke that was detonated under WTC4 because the straight up wall didn't do
>>>much damage but the angled wall allowed the nuke to vaporize part of WTC3.
>>
>> No, it wasn't.

>How can you say that when one wall was nearly straight up and one wall was 
>bowed or blowed out.

Lots of things could cause the walls to remain straight or crooked.  Such 
as their buildings collapsing above/around them.

>  And you are still overlooking the fact only a nuke 
>could turn the Twin Towers into ultra fine debris that floated away instead 
>of land on the ground.

Except that it didn't.

You never did address the 108,222 truckloads of debris hauled out of the
WTC site.  (108,342-120).  Where did all that debris come from, if your
imaginary nukes converted the towers to dust?  That's because they didn't,
imaginary nukes can't do anything except give kooktards hallucinations!

>> 0 for 4.  That's about as good as could be expected from kooktards.
>>
>>>And if two 110 story buildings really crashed to the ground why didn't 
>>>they
>>>hit the ground with more force than was recorded?
>>
>> The gravitational potential energy of the buildings converted to the
>> kinetic energy of falling was consistent with the recorded 2.x earthquake
>> readings.

>And where is your supporing evidence on that?

Do the math.  Calculate the potential gravitational energy of a standing
tower.  Convert that energy amount to an earthquake magnitude.  That gives
you a maximum earthquake magnitude the collapse could generate (assumes
100% of the energy is converted to earthquake energy.  The actual 
earthquake energy would be quite a bit less, but remember the Richter
scale is logarithmic)

>BTW your lack of evidence and your sudden rush to deny points to the fact 
>that you are a TV Hugger.  ( New term )

Hah.  I watch very little TV.

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