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Re: New paper by prominent scientists suggests ocean levels will rise much faster than predicted

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Am 29.07.2015 03:47, schrieb Thomas Heger:

>> From this we can estimate sea-levels at the times, when Portus Romae
>> was still in use. Now that level is above the current Mediterranean Sea,
>> what is also a few kilometers away from the former harbour.
>>
>> Now the question: how did that happen?
>>
>> My assumption. 'Growing Earth' is in fact true, despite otherwise
>> accepted believes. This would make sea-levels fall at a slow but
>> constant rate (currently: 4m /1000 years).
>>
>> This is in accordance with observations (of that lake), while other
>> explanations (like Plate tectonics) require assumptions about some sort
>> of 'lift' (of Italy). This could be the case, but is actually 'out of
>> the blue'.
>>
>
> Plate tectonics assumes a mechanism called 'subduction'. This would be
> the cause of an uplift of the area, where that harbour is located
> ('Eurasian plate') because the African plate is pushing underneath.
>
> But is this a plausible assumption? An uplift of 8m is required, but
> would such a rising landmass leave the area exactly levelled?
>
> The problem is this: the harbour was build horizontal. That was easy for
> the Roman builders, since they could use the Mediterranean Sea as
> reference surface.
>
> But the African plate is certainly not using the sea-levels as guidance
> for its dive into inner Earth, hence would make the lift of Italy
> slightly uneven.
>
> Only this did not happen, as we can see at this lake. The very large
> harbour is still exactly horizontal, (as we can see at the surface of
> that lake).
>


Other former sea-floors are also very horizontal. This would be - at 
least- unusual, if the area is lifted out of the sea by uplift of 
tectonic plates, caused by subduction of another plate.

E.g. the Atacama desert was formerly the bottom of a sea. This is known 
from remains of marine origin.

So the current desert as assumed to be lifted out of the water by 
subduction of the plate underneath the Pacific, what is (according to 
PT) pushing underneath South America.

But wouldn't that make the area tilt.

Actually the desert is not exactly horizontal, but has an angle into the 
opposite direction, since it's higher on the eastern side near the Andes.

The Atacama desert is a good example, because the desert is very dry and 
is so for about 15 million years. So the water went away and the desert 
is what remains. This is almost completely undisturbed by rain for such 
a long time.

This is  know from the analysis of gypsum, what is still there. If it 
had rained at any time more than a few drops, the gypsum would be gone. 
since it's there, the current form of the landscape is not caused by 
erosion.

It looks as if someone pulled out the plug of a (large) bath-tub and let 
the water out.

This would require cracks, where the water can flow out and deeper 
sea-levels, where the water can possibly flow to.

> The idea of 'Growing Earth' is, that spreading causes rifts and valley,
> in which the water flows. This would make sea-levels drop in large
> periods of time.
>
> The harbour of Rome would be one hint in this direction, but not the
> only one. Other harbours of ancient towns have similar characteristics,
> like the harbour of Troy. This harbour is now 30 m above sea-level and
> the water is about 5 km away.
>
> Haitabu is another ancient harbour, were they have found wrecks of
> Viking ships - on land!
>

Best example is actually Troy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Troy

 From the kind of buildings it is easy to see, that Troy was once a port.

Troy was build several times at the same location. This make the ruins 
look like 'onion shells'.

The City looks like being initially built upon a small island. Then the 
water sank and new land could be used to extend the city. Also new 
harbour facilities have been build - slightly deeper and more outside.

Now the city sits on top of a hill and the Mediterranean Sea is a few 
kilometres away. But if it once was a harbour, the sea-level 
four-thousand years ago must have been much higher than today.


TH

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