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Re: New paper by prominent scientists suggests ocean levels will rise much faster than predicted

From Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics, sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: New paper by prominent scientists suggests ocean levels will rise much faster than predicted
Date 2015-07-29 03:47 +0200
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Am 26.07.2015 18:33, schrieb Thomas Heger:

>> This seems to show SL in the Med rose by 4m over the past 25k
>> years and within the last 1k seems to have flat-lined.
>>
>> Fimicino is still on the coastline and the city fathers record it
>> as 1m above sea level.
>>
>> The port of Hobart, Tasmania, is 10-40m above sea level yet ships
>> reach it from the sea every day.
>
> Maybe Tasmanian ships can fly, but Roman ships could not.
>
> Their vessels used to sail upon the surface of the oceans and that's why
> the clever Romans build their ports near water.
>
> Romans didn't like the use of cranes to bring the ships to the moorings,
> hence those had been build sufficiently low.
>
>  From this we can estimate sea-levels at the times, when Portus Romae
> was still in use. Now that level is above the current Mediterranean Sea,
> what is also a few kilometers away from the former harbour.
>
> Now the question: how did that happen?
>
> My assumption. 'Growing Earth' is in fact true, despite otherwise
> accepted believes. This would make sea-levels fall at a slow but
> constant rate (currently: 4m /1000 years).
>
> This is in accordance with observations (of that lake), while other
> explanations (like Plate tectonics) require assumptions about some sort
> of 'lift' (of Italy). This could be the case, but is actually 'out of
> the blue'.
>

Plate tectonics assumes a mechanism called 'subduction'. This would be 
the cause of an uplift of the area, where that harbour is located 
('Eurasian plate') because the African plate is pushing underneath.

But is this a plausible assumption? An uplift of 8m is required, but 
would such a rising landmass leave the area exactly levelled?

The problem is this: the harbour was build horizontal. That was easy for 
the Roman builders, since they could use the Mediterranean Sea as 
reference surface.

But the African plate is certainly not using the sea-levels as guidance 
for its dive into inner Earth, hence would make the lift of Italy 
slightly uneven.

Only this did not happen, as we can see at this lake. The very large 
harbour is still exactly horizontal, (as we can see at the surface of 
that lake).


The idea of 'Growing Earth' is, that spreading causes rifts and valley, 
in which the water flows. This would make sea-levels drop in large 
periods of time.

The harbour of Rome would be one hint in this direction, but not the 
only one. Other harbours of ancient towns have similar characteristics, 
like the harbour of Troy. This harbour is now 30 m above sea-level and 
the water is about 5 km away.

Haitabu is another ancient harbour, were they have found wrecks of 
Viking ships - on land!

TH

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