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Re: Push Gravity

Newsgroups sci.physics
Date 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800
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Subject Re: Push Gravity
From john <johnsefton288@gmail.com>

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“See any freshman level chemistry or physics book. ” 

So when considering the very small, your suck model of gravity, for which you have no mechanism, has protons and electrons SUCKING each other together gravitationally AND sucking each other together electrically, but they don’t crash together because magical QM keeps them apart- how?- and when considering the very large, it doesn’t work unless you invoke Dark Matter, which has never been demonstrated after years of looking. 
Gotcha. ”
So Michael.
The gravity theory that YOU believe FAILS at the very small, FAILS at the very large, and FAILS at providing a mechanism.
And you’re worried that shielding hasn’t been demonstrated with push gravity?
Except the Allais effect, of course.

Gotcha. Talk about selective criticism

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Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 17:36 -0800
  Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 01:45 +0000
    Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 18:02 -0800
      Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 02:37 +0000
        Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-30 19:28 -0800
          Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-30 22:09 -0600
            Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:14 +0000
              Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 09:48 -0600
          Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2018-12-31 04:57 +0000
            Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:19 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-30 23:23 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity Paul Dakota <jsf@iaswmh.nb> - 2018-12-31 07:34 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2018-12-31 00:26 -0800
            Re: Push Gravity James McGinn <jimmcginn9@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 00:31 -0800
            Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 03:20 -0800
              Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 04:40 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 05:06 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:30 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 08:42 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 09:27 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:07 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:19 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 10:25 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-12-31 12:53 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:08 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 14:44 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:15 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 18:36 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-02 22:54 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 11:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 14:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 21:40 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-03 22:49 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-04 12:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 09:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 18:23 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:04 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 19:59 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 11:27 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-05 20:18 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 12:45 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 11:30 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 13:20 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:30 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 16:23 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 17:47 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 18:47 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-05 23:08 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:19 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 21:01 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-05 21:56 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-05 22:37 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 06:31 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 16:54 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 09:30 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-06 18:27 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:30 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:38 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:45 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 13:53 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 14:04 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:46 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 14:05 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:44 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:53 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 02:11 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:57 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:55 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 01:49 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-09 04:48 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-09 15:27 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:47 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 10:58 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 16:21 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:38 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 02:54 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 22:16 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:35 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-07 00:51 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2019-01-07 03:02 +0100
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 15:04 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-07 01:34 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 03:07 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:26 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 11:55 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:32 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 04:32 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:37 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 14:31 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-08 15:30 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 15:43 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 12:52 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 21:39 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 19:18 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-10 01:27 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 17:50 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:38 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-09 18:27 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity pnalsing@gmail.com - 2019-01-06 11:11 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 21:07 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 05:12 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-06 10:34 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity "reber G=emc^2" <herbertglazier0@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 12:39 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2019-01-07 09:31 -0600
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-08 05:00 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Mahipal <mahipal7638@gmail.com> - 2019-01-06 10:57 -0800
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-08 23:00 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-09 14:45 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 19:29 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 12:05 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 20:50 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 14:01 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 22:11 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 00:00 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 16:13 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-01 01:47 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2018-12-31 18:00 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-01 13:36 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-04 02:33 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2019-01-04 16:26 +0000
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                Re: Push Gravity poraty6@gmail.com - 2019-01-02 15:12 -0800
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                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:24 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:45 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 23:54 +0000
                Re: Push Gravity john <johnsefton288@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 15:57 -0800
                Re: Push Gravity benj <benj.fake@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 19:23 -0500
                Re: Push Gravity Odd Bodkin <bodkinodd@gmail.com> - 2019-01-03 02:44 +0000
                I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-02 16:19 -0800
                Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. "Sir Gregory Hall,  Esq." <greghall@yacht_maester.fake> - 2019-01-02 19:27 -0500
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                Re: I've been slandering UseNutters for 28 years now. % <persent@gmail.com> - 2019-01-02 17:30 -0700
                PeeScent's fifth grade education. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2019-01-02 16:39 -0800
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