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Re: faster than c

From Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com>
Newsgroups comp.lang.c
Subject Re: faster than c
Date 2015-04-18 08:26 +1200
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Tim Rentsch wrote:
> Martin Shobe <martin.shobe@yahoo.com> writes:
>>
>> They did add some.  E.g. __func__, variardic macros, long long,
>> extended integral types.  From what I heard, the C and C++
>> committees tried to keep their the changes they made to support
>> threading reasonably compatible.  From what I've seen, the C++
>> committee's attitude is keep it compatible unless it interferes
>> with the direction they want to take C++ in.
>
> This position sounds reasonable, but in terms of practical
> results it seems not too different from we'll put it in if
> we feel like it.  Consider a small set of constructs present
> in C but not (AFAIK but please correct if wrong) in C++:
>
>      restrict
>      compound literals
>      designated initializers
>      variable length arrays
>      complex floating point values
>
> I think these could be added to C++ as follows:
>
> restrict - accept the syntax, and add the needed rules for
> type compatibility (which are rarely transgressed), but
> without any semantic consequences (which is conforming
> for what restrict does).

A qualified yes to this one especially given most compilers have a 
common front end.  In C++ code (where pointers are typically hidden in 
objects) restrict would have less use than in C.  So I guess the small 
additional complexity to the language isn't seen as enough of an advantage.

> compound literals and designated initializers - accept these
> constructs as C accepts them, perhaps limited to data types
> that are legal in C programs.

Designated initialisers would be a simple and useful addition and I've 
never bought into the arguments against adding them to C++.  In the 
embedded and driver space designated initialisers are frequently used to 
create static objects which would work well with C++'s constexpr. 
Neither of the workarounds on offer when working with C structs 
(wrapping them or initialising them in a C file) are satisfactory.

> VLAs and complex - add these to C++ in the same way that C11
> does, ie, optional features whose presence is checkable via
> a pre-processor macro;  implementations could put them in
> or not, as they choose.

VLAs are a disaster and would be incompatible with C++!

C++ already has std::complex.

> It's hard to see how any of these interfere with where C++
> is or where it seems likely to go.  Granted, some of them
> may appear quaint and old-fashioned compared to some future
> super-duper new C++ construct, but I don't think they
> would actually interfere with such constructs.  What's the
> problem?  From where I sit it looks like snooty stubbornness,
> nothing more.

VLAs would interfere with where C++ is.  A simple example:

const size_t bufferSize = 42;

void f()
{
   char buffer[bufferSize];
}

declares an array in C++ and a VLA in C!

-- 
Ian Collins

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                Re: faster than c David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-01-22 15:11 +0100
                Re: faster than c fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-01-22 06:21 -0800
                Re: faster than c David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2015-01-22 16:46 +0100
                Re: faster than c fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-01-22 07:58 -0800
                Re: faster than c Lowell Gilbert <lgusenet@be-well.ilk.org> - 2015-01-22 12:29 -0500
                Re: faster than c fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-01-22 10:09 -0800
                Re: faster than c "Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid> - 2015-01-22 14:07 -0800
                Re: faster than c asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-24 00:40 -0800
                Re: faster than c "Chris M. Thomasson" <no@spam.invalid> - 2015-01-24 12:53 -0800
                Re: faster than c Greg Martin <greg.at.softsprocket@dot.com> - 2015-01-22 15:09 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-22 01:59 -0800
                Re: faster than c Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-03-24 09:46 -0700
                Re: faster than c Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-25 02:15 -0500
                Re: faster than c asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-03-25 02:45 -0700
                Re: faster than c Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-03-25 11:30 -0700
                Re: faster than c Robert Wessel <robertwessel2@yahoo.com> - 2015-03-26 00:42 -0500
                Re: faster than c Tim Rentsch <txr@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2015-03-28 11:35 -0700
                Re: faster than c Keith Thompson <kst-u@mib.org> - 2015-01-17 14:42 -0800
                Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-17 22:53 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-17 15:13 -0800
        Re: faster than c glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-01-17 22:02 +0000
        Re: faster than c Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-01-17 16:21 -0800
          Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-18 01:27 +0000
            Re: faster than c glen herrmannsfeldt <gah@ugcs.caltech.edu> - 2015-01-18 01:41 +0000
            Re: faster than c Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-01-18 00:11 -0800
              Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-18 11:23 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-18 05:55 -0800
                Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-18 20:11 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-18 13:12 -0800
                Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-18 23:11 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-18 15:49 -0800
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-18 16:06 -0800
                Re: faster than c Bartc <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-19 01:03 +0000
                Re: faster than c Richard Heathfield <invalid@see.sig.invalid> - 2015-01-19 08:13 +0000
                Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-19 01:39 -0800
                Re: faster than c Malcolm McLean <malcolm.mclean5@btinternet.com> - 2015-01-18 13:52 -0800
                Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-18 23:36 +0000
      Re: faster than c Walter Banks <walter@bytecraft.com> - 2015-01-20 14:01 -0500
        Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-20 11:18 -0800
    Re: faster than c Melzzzzz <mel@zzzzz.com> - 2015-01-17 22:30 +0100
    Re: faster than c Ian Collins <ian-news@hotmail.com> - 2015-01-18 16:49 +1300
  Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-17 05:55 -0800
    Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-17 14:30 +0000
      Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-17 07:32 -0800
        Re: faster than c BartC <bc@freeuk.com> - 2015-01-17 15:56 +0000
          Re: faster than c fir <profesor.fir@gmail.com> - 2015-01-17 08:33 -0800
  Re: faster than c fmassei@gmail.com - 2015-01-19 02:26 -0800
  faster than c asetofsymbols@gmail.com - 2015-01-20 00:12 -0800

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