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Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release

From Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com>
Newsgroups comp.mobile.ipad
Subject Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release
Date 2015-03-12 15:35 +0000
Organization People for the Ethical Treatment of Pirates
Message-ID <cmdq25Fu491U9@mid.individual.net> (permalink)
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On 2015-03-12, David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On 12/03/2015 15:01, Jolly Roger wrote:
>> On 2015-03-12, David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
>>> On 12/03/2015 12:56, Lewis wrote:
>>> []
>>>> Really? How so? There are no security issues with iOS bluetooth that I
>>>> know of. Or are you just spreading FUD?
>>>
>>> Any unnecessary connection into a computer is a potential security risk,
>>> and should be disabled if not required.  Just good security practice.
>>
>> Do you also disable WiFi and your cellular connection regularly, since
>> those are also not required on a continuous basis? If not, what makes
>> Bluetooth so special in this regard - according to you? The fact is
>> there are many different features that require Bluetooth (some, but
>> certainly not all, have been listed in this thread already). Personally,
>> I use some of those features, such as Handoff and Bluetooth peripherals,
>> frequently enough that disabling Bluetooth frequently would severely
>> reduce my productivity. I don't expect every iOS user to be able to say
>> that, but have to think that Apple probably has a much better grasp of
>> how many iOS users might need Bluetooth-enabled functionality (whether
>> they realize it or not), and they almost certainly have a much better
>> idea of the security implications than little, old you.
>
> Personal insults will not get you anywhere in this discussion.

Say what? I haven't insulted you once. If you feel insulted by my claim
that Apple knows more about security than you (which is very likely the
case), you really need to grow a thicker skin!

> Yes, I disable Wi-Fi and cellular if they are not needed.  Personally, I 
> have no need for Bluetooth so it's disabled as well but, as I said, if 
> it /is/ routinely required then by all means enable it and leave it enabled.

Most people do leave them enabled, because the increase in functionality
and productivity is high with them enabled. And there are no widespread
security issues that you can point to affecting all of those people.

> What is potentially hazardous

You haven't shown anything to back up your claims that enabling
Bluetooth is "hazardous" or that it's a security risk for iOS users.
There are no widespread Bluetooth security issues affecting the millions
of iOS devices out there with Bluetooth enabled.

> here is that if a user has decided to 
> leave Bluetooth off, then Apple should not be overriding that choice, at 
> least not without warning the user that a change is being made to one of 
> their connectivity settings.  Apple should leave the setting as it was.

That's debatable. Many people don't know or care to learn which features
require Bluetooth connectivity, and would rather their iOS devices "just
work". Apple knows this and turns Bluetooth on for them both in the
default factory configuration for every iOS device as well as during
subsequent system updates. Again, I have to think Apple has a better
idea of the ramifications than you.

-- 
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JR

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Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-11 18:50 +0000
  Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-11 14:54 -0400
  Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 18:58 +0000
    Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-11 15:01 -0400
    Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-11 22:44 +0000
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 23:06 +0000
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-12 18:15 +0000
  Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-11 19:32 +0000
  Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-03-11 12:39 -0700
    Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 19:47 +0000
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 19:57 +0000
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Adair Bordon <Adair@not_my_real_email.com> - 2015-03-11 22:29 +0000
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-03-13 13:47 -0700
    Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-11 20:50 +0000
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-11 22:45 +0000
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-11 23:05 +0000
          Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-12 18:18 +0000
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-12 18:45 +0000
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release George Kerby <ghost_topper@hotmail.com> - 2015-03-12 19:41 -0500
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 16:27 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 13:10 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 17:12 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 17:17 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 17:25 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 18:02 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 18:44 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 19:03 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 19:46 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 16:45 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 21:24 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 14:06 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 18:41 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-13 13:43 -0500
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 19:05 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 19:46 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 16:45 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-13 21:11 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-13 21:55 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 16:45 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2015-03-13 13:50 -0700
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 17:03 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 12:54 -0500
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 14:04 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 15:06 -0500
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:08 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:30 -0500
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 21:41 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-13 17:47 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 18:43 +0000
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-12 01:59 +0000
          Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-12 18:17 +0000
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-12 18:47 +0000
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-12 20:20 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 16:26 -0400
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-12 19:13 +0000
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-12 20:20 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-12 21:22 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 16:24 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-13 22:39 +0000
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 15:53 -0400
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-12 21:35 +0000
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Bert <bert@iphouse.com> - 2015-03-13 16:26 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 13:09 -0400
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 00:02 -0400
      Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-12 07:34 +0000
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-12 12:56 +0000
          Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-12 14:50 +0000
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-12 15:01 +0000
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-12 15:19 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 11:28 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-12 15:35 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-12 19:20 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 15:53 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release bj <address_is@invalid.invalid> - 2015-03-12 20:12 -0500
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 11:11 -0400
            Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-12 21:33 +0000
              Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-13 09:05 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-13 11:15 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-14 09:01 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 12:12 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-14 14:06 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:01 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2015-03-14 19:54 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 17:18 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 13:42 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-14 18:52 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 15:41 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 20:26 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:28 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-14 20:49 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 16:58 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release David Taylor <david-taylor@blueyonder.co.uk.invalid> - 2015-03-15 10:24 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-15 09:07 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Peter Crosland <g6jns@yahoo.co.uk> - 2015-03-15 18:38 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release Lewis <g.kreme@gmail.com.dontsendmecopies> - 2015-03-14 21:39 +0000
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-14 08:21 -0400
                Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-13 12:20 -0400
        Re: Apple fixes major oversight with iOS 8.2 release nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2015-03-12 10:28 -0400

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