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Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ?

Subject	Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ?
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From	Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net>
Date	2015-12-01 10:57 -0600
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On 11/30/15 11/30/15 - 12:14 PM, Carl Heinz Krüger wrote:
> суббота., Mon, 30 Nov 2015 12:02:43 -0600 пользователь Tom Roberts
> написал:
>> The CMBR is not really a beam. One can, of course, measure distributions
>> in energy, momentum, frequency, wavelength, and direction. From those
>> distributions one can extract averages, etc. The usual "average" is the
>> corresponding black-body temperature.
>
> What do you mean by "direction". The direction is irrelevant and most
> likely the distribution cross-section is equal disregard direction.

NONSENSE.

The key aspect of the CMBR is that it is isotropic to within a few parts in 
10^5. They know this by recording the observed temperature while pointing the 
instrument in different directions. So direction is not at all "disregarded".

	They do omit foreground sources (e.g. stars), and they
	subtract off the overall dipole (due to the motion of
	the instrument).


> [... word salad omitted]


Tom Roberts

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Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? John Gogo <jfgogo22@yahoo.com> - 2015-11-21 16:46 -0800
  Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-11-23 19:10 +0000
    Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-23 22:39 +0000
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Carl Heinz Krüger <heinzkrueger@ubernetz.org> - 2015-11-30 16:44 +0000
                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-28 17:49 -0600
                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-11-28 18:43 -0600
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Tom Roberts <tjroberts137@sbcglobal.net> - 2015-12-01 10:57 -0600
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Carl Heinz Krüger <heinzkrueger@ubernetz.org> - 2015-12-01 21:47 +0000
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