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Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ?

From Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de>
Newsgroups sci.physics.relativity
Subject Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ?
Date 2015-12-02 07:30 +0100
Organization PointedEars Software (PES)
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Gary Harnagel wrote:

> […] Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn wrote:
>> Gary Harnagel wrote:
>>> ....  One must have some knowledge of physics to even make a WAG.
>> Obviously, WAGs can be done with insufficient knowledge of physics as 
>> well. ....
>> 
>> > E = k*T = h*c/lambda
>> E = k T
>> 
>> […] is only true for the *thermal* energy of systems with *two* degrees
>> of freedom […] With 6 degrees of freedom, as expected, you get 
>> approximately the correct value: […]
> 
> Which means even more photons with longer interaction range (wavelength)

Not even wrong.

>> Instead, the equation that applies here is that of Planck’s law of 
>> black- body radiation, […] For the CMBR with the absolute temperature 
>> as measured above, these are ca. 160.2 GHz and 1.871 mm, respectively 
>> (ibid.)
> 
> What is it about "WAG" that you don't understand.

What is it about “attribution _line_” that you do not understand?

> Everything you have done is only to strengthen my argument.

Hardly.  You argued that your WAG were in any way better than Henry Wilson’s
because you had some knowledge of physics.  It has been shown repeatedly now
that it was not, that you have insufficient knowledge of physics to make
that claim, and that therefore your ideas and figures were dead wrong, too.
 You should learn from that and practice more humility next time.

>> You can view EM radiation as *either* an EM wave that has frequencies 
>> and wavelengths, *or* as a beam of photons where each one is carrying
>> a distinct amount of energy, but _not_ both at the same time (wave– 
>> particle duality).
> 
> C'mon!  Wave-particle DUALITY means both phenomena are present.

Not in the way that you think.


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  Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Henry Wilson <HGW@home.com> - 2015-11-23 19:10 +0000
    Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Thomas 'PointedEars' Lahn <PointedEars@web.de> - 2015-11-23 22:39 +0000
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            Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? alsor@interia.pl - 2015-11-24 17:39 -0800
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-01 04:13 -0800
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Carl Heinz Krüger <heinzkrueger@ubernetz.org> - 2015-12-01 21:47 +0000
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                Re: Why is the universe 13.8 milliards years old ? Gary Harnagel <hitlong@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-02 03:12 -0800
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