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| From | "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.conspiracy |
| Subject | Re: Why "9/11" ? |
| Date | 2015-12-29 17:44 -0600 |
| Organization | Sooper Sekrit Gov'mint Agency. Shhhhhhhh. |
| Message-ID | <am668bdd7bcspj518966683dhdhdtvsius@4ax.com> (permalink) |
| References | (6 earlier) <dec2s7F3tsuU1@mid.individual.net> <rsp18b51o0ah6gb2kgnqmuqom8v25n92ig@4ax.com> <deedujFmb52U1@mid.individual.net> <1np48b5hfv9kis8kn5oc77hfrnoefbmouh@4ax.com> <degc04F75v9U1@mid.individual.net> |
On Tue, 29 Dec 2015 22:24:12 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de>
wrote:
>Am 29.12.2015 11:56, schrieb K Wills (Shill #3):
>
>>>>> In Germany we had several events, that happened on dates with 9 and 11.
>>>>>
>>>>> E.g. the Berlin Wall was opened at 9.11.1989.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Republic was declared on a 9.11.
>>>>>
>>>>> Also these atrocities called 'crystal night' was on a 9.11. (in German
>>>>> notation, of course, what is 11/9 in US-format)
>>>>
>>>> November 9th?
>>>Well, yes: 9.11. in the date-format used in Germany is the 9th of November.
>>
>> Above you claim in the US it's 11/9. That would be November 9th.
>> What does November 9th have to do with anything we're discussing?
>>I don't see the connection.
>>
Thomas?
>>>>> So I have collected hints for events, that could possibly be a
>>>>> state-sponsored fake.
>>>>
>>>> No, you've taken random events and forced a connection that isn't
>>>> actually there.
>>>>
>>>>> Most prominent:
>>>>>
>>>>> the so called 'gun-powder plot'.
>>>>>
>>>>> This is somehow similar to 9-11 (2001), since the story contains similar
>>>>> elements (lone bad guys, terrorists, explosion, large building,
>>>>> religious unrest, settlement of unrest).
>>>>>
>>>>> But it was not a 9th of November, but a fifth.
>>>>
>>>> So, like so much of what you post, completely irrelevant to the
>>>> discussion.
>>>
>>> No, if the 'gun-powder-plot' was in fact an early version of what
>>> apparently 9/11 (2001) seems to be : state-sponsored false flag
>>> operations, to utilise religious tensions for martial law and other
>>> atrocities.
>>
>> There is no evidence that the actions of Guy Fawkes, or his
>> associates, were the result of a state-sponsored false flag operation.
>> You are, of course, free to provide any and all evidence you have. But
>> you won't. You'll simply offer guesses and assumptions that are not
>> based in reality.
>
>
>I didn't say, that the actions of Guy Fawkes were state-sponsored,
Yes, you did. As seen above (yes I replaced the part you
dishonestly snipped away, again), you did claim it was a
"state-sponsored false flag operations, to utilise [sic] religious
tensions for martial law and other atrocities."
Feel free to try and avoid the truth by dishonestly snipping once
more, if you NEED to. I'll simply bring back that which proves you the
liar you are.
>but I doubt, that he had done anything at all.
>
You doubt much that is true. It's almost amusing how often you do
so.
>Reason: the guy had the name: Guy Faux (not Fawkes).
Wrong. It was Fawkes. It's well established.
>And that is French and means 'wrong'.
While yours is not really a wrong translation of faux, a better
one would be "false."
An example of it used in a sentence:
Je dois encore voir une demande de vous qui est pas faux.
Yes, I am fluent in French. Though I doubt my spell checker will
like it :)
>Also 'Fawkes' sounds similar to Fake'.
>
The man in the Gun Powder Plot we are referencing was named
Fawkes. This isn't a secret. There is ample historical data to confirm
this. I'll present some cites, if you wish.
>So: was there actually any powder in the basement of the parliament?
>
According to the historical documents, yes.
If you have anything to counter the documents, present it. Note:
guesses, feelings, hopes, and assumptions will be disregarded.
>We know about this powder from actually where?
>
From the documents of the time. If you have anything to counter
them, present it.
>Is the story at least somehow plausible?
>
Yes. Very plausible.
>No! We have no other evidence, but only that from 'government' (and
>associated agencies).
>
>So: the 'gun-powder-plot' smells and tastes like '9/11'.
>
So you agree it was NOT a false flag operation. Good.
>>> Here we have King Jacob I.
>>
>> James was King at the time.
>>
>>> who could eventually have an interest in the
>>> event (to push out Catholic influence from England and to strengthen his
>>> own government).
>>>
>>> From King James to George W. Bush exists a direct personal link, btw.
>>
>> They may be distantly related. Go back far enough, and everyone
>> will have a common ancestor.
>
>Well, no.
>
Well, yes.
>The so called First Families of Virginia had married only among each
>other and derived their ancestry from Pocahontas (and King James).
>
What?
Please present your evidence for the "first Families" of Virginia
having Pocahontas and King James as ancestors.
>Among them we have then president George W. Bush.
Bush wasn't, and isn't, from Virginia.
As most fourth graders will already know, Bush Sr. was born in
Milton, Massachusetts. Bush Jr., the one you reference, was born in
New Haven, Connecticut.
What has me most puzzled about you is your constantly making
claims that are so easy to prove wrong. Given how easy it is, you have
to know the truth, but opt to present that which you KNOW is wrong
with intent. In other words, I'm wondering why you consistently LIE
about most everything.
Is the motivation something you can put into words?
>
>So there is good reason to pay attention to this particular aspect of
>American history.
>
Maybe you should start paying attention.
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Re: Why "9/11" ? Government Shill #2 <gov.shill@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 15:53 +1100
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-23 21:18 -0800
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 03:59 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-24 03:59 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-28 03:58 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 04:56 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2015-12-29 22:24 +0100
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 17:44 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 04:18 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-16 04:17 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2016-01-17 06:07 +0100
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-17 05:23 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 23:41 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-25 15:14 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-25 16:22 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-25 19:42 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 00:29 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 00:38 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? PaxPerPoten <PPP@USA.org> - 2015-12-29 03:10 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 01:49 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-29 02:07 -0800
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 04:56 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-29 13:05 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-29 08:52 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-29 16:59 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-30 02:44 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-30 13:37 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 17:45 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-29 04:56 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-29 08:59 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? BDK <Control@Worldcontrol.com> - 2015-12-29 18:23 -0500
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Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-30 07:56 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-30 16:20 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-30 10:32 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-30 17:54 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 20:53 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2015-12-31 04:36 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2015-12-31 01:29 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 05:23 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-31 05:23 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2015-12-30 17:58 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2015-12-30 16:26 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-02 23:31 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-03 08:58 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-03 20:22 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-01-03 14:37 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-03 15:24 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney) - 2016-01-03 22:35 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "Rocky" <wookiee@att.net> - 2016-01-03 19:57 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? Tony Dragon <tony.dragon@btinternet.com> - 2016-01-04 06:31 +0000
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 04:05 -0600
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2016-01-04 04:04 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-04 23:43 -0800
Re: Why "9/11" ? "K Wills (Shill #3)" <compuelf@gmail.com> - 2015-12-30 20:53 -0600
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Re: Why "9/11" ? joeturn <joeturn2@yahoo.com> - 2016-01-17 22:48 -0800
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