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| From | Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | alt.comp.periphs.hdd, comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage, comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.linux.setup |
| Subject | Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? |
| Date | 2014-06-29 12:36 -0400 |
| Organization | National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada |
| Message-ID | <alpine.LNX.2.02.1406291232430.6254@darkstar.example.org> (permalink) |
| References | <obKdnU708pAllTLOnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@earthlink.com> |
Cross-posted to 5 groups.
On Sat, 28 Jun 2014, Ant wrote:
> Because that wears out the SSD quickly, and it is better to put it on a slow
> HDD. If so, then how do computer (especially laptop/notebook) users with only
> a SSD (not hybrids with HDDs) do this? I assume Windows, Mac OS X, and Linux
> follow this rule?
>
My Acer Aspire One netbook came before they moved to a mechanical hard
drive; it simply doesn't use swap.
Swap was necessary in the old days when you had 8megs of RAM and needed
more to run KDE. But the more memory, the less need for swap. I just
realized last week I turned off swap by accident, I haven't noticed any
problem as a result, but then I have 2gigs of RAM. So many people now have
more, that swap becomes less and less important. If you find swap is
being used a lot, then it's time to consider more RAM, rather than how to
handle swap.
Anything that does a lot of writes to the disk is something to watch if
you've got a solid state drive. Deal with setting things up so you aren't
doing that constant write, and the solid state drive will be fine.
Michael
> Currently, I have a Debian stable box that uses an 115 GB Corsair Force
> Series F115 SSD since 11/24/2001. It ran almost 24/7. I do have a very old
> PATA/IDE HDD too, but it is mostly for storage. I'd think it would be too
> slow for virtual memory (VM) if it was on it. However, my Debian box (2 GB of
> RAM) doesn't use it much according to top with a VM (512 MB of RAM for an
> updated Windows XP Pro. SP3):
>
> $ top - 11:13:23 up 23 days, 4:39, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.11, 0.08
> Tasks: 174 total, 1 running, 172 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie
> %Cpu(s): 1.1 us, 1.2 sy, 0.0 ni, 97.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, 0.0
> st
> KiB Mem: 2060516 total, 1976072 used, 84444 free, 223096 buffers
> KiB Swap: 3905532 total, 99548 used, 3805984 free, 439456 cached
>
> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
> 4907 ant 20 0 1477m 655m 593m S 0.3 32.6 9:21.44 VirtualBox
> 3231 ant 20 0 326m 135m 4880 S 0.0 6.7 2:06.69 ruby
> 4631 ant 20 0 2955m 104m 36m S 1.3 5.2 15:42.50 plasma-desktop
> 4621 ant 20 0 2689m 73m 28m S 1.3 3.6 20:39.79 kwin
> 10202 ant 20 0 389m 41m 27m S 0.0 2.1 0:05.09 kscreenlocker
> 5290 root 20 0 178m 41m 17m S 1.7 2.0 187:13.77 Xorg
> 4835 ant 20 0 589m 39m 20m S 0.0 1.9 0:10.53 VirtualBox
> 4665 ant 20 0 785m 36m 10m S 0.0 1.8 0:07.64 krunner
> 4683 ant 20 0 531m 26m 8876 S 0.0 1.3 0:00.78 kmix
> 4601 ant 20 0 354m 15m 13m S 0.0 0.8 0:00.38 kdeinit4
> 4628 ant 20 0 619m 14m 6644 S 0.0 0.7 0:01.01 knotify4
> 4604 ant 20 0 703m 14m 8100 S 0.0 0.7 0:06.77 kded4
> 4619 ant 20 0 531m 11m 6188 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.37 ksmserver
> 4708 ant 20 0 283m 10m 6148 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.25 klipper
> 4680 ant 20 0 364m 10m 6012 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.16 polkit-kde-auth
> 12819 root 20 0 65312 10m 1732 S 0.0 0.5 1:26.60 python
> ...
>
> Thank you in advance. :)
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Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-28 11:25 -0700
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