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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Newsgroups | comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage, comp.sys.mac.hardware.storage, comp.os.linux.hardware, comp.os.linux.setup |
| Subject | Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? |
| Date | 2014-06-30 06:30 +1000 |
| Message-ID | <c1bbdkF4qsaU1@mid.individual.net> (permalink) |
| References | <obKdnU708pAllTLOnZ2dnUVZ_rKdnZ2d@earthlink.com> <mcmurtrie-20471E.23311628062014@news.sonic.net> |
Cross-posted to 4 groups.
Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> wrote > Flash and spinning rust are similar in that > they are both analog storage that wears out. Not in a practical sense with spinning rust. > Flash wears out from writes. Spinning rust wears out > from pulses of pressure when the head flies over. Not normally the reason they are no longer used. > Wear leveling, the digital encoding method, and the amount of hidden > spare storage determines the tradeoff between capacity and longevity. > Get one designed for continuous writes and you're good for 5-10 years > of heavy use. The capacity may not look good but that's the tradeoff. > Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> wrote >> Because that wears out the SSD quickly, and it is better to put it on a >> slow HDD. If so, then how do computer (especially laptop/notebook) users >> with only a SSD (not hybrids with HDDs) do this? I assume Windows, Mac >> OS X, and Linux follow this rule? >> >> Currently, I have a Debian stable box that uses an 115 GB Corsair Force >> Series F115 SSD since 11/24/2001. It ran almost 24/7. I do have a very >> old PATA/IDE HDD too, but it is mostly for storage. I'd think it would >> be too slow for virtual memory (VM) if it was on it. However, my Debian >> box (2 GB of RAM) doesn't use it much according to top with a VM (512 MB >> of RAM for an updated Windows XP Pro. SP3): >> >> $ top - 11:13:23 up 23 days, 4:39, 3 users, load average: 0.21, 0.11, >> 0.08 >> Tasks: 174 total, 1 running, 172 sleeping, 1 stopped, 0 zombie >> %Cpu(s): 1.1 us, 1.2 sy, 0.0 ni, 97.7 id, 0.0 wa, 0.0 hi, 0.0 si, >> 0.0 st >> KiB Mem: 2060516 total, 1976072 used, 84444 free, 223096 buffers >> KiB Swap: 3905532 total, 99548 used, 3805984 free, 439456 cached >> >> PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND >> 4907 ant 20 0 1477m 655m 593m S 0.3 32.6 9:21.44 VirtualBox >> 3231 ant 20 0 326m 135m 4880 S 0.0 6.7 2:06.69 ruby >> 4631 ant 20 0 2955m 104m 36m S 1.3 5.2 15:42.50 >> plasma-desktop >> 4621 ant 20 0 2689m 73m 28m S 1.3 3.6 20:39.79 kwin >> 10202 ant 20 0 389m 41m 27m S 0.0 2.1 0:05.09 >> kscreenlocker >> 5290 root 20 0 178m 41m 17m S 1.7 2.0 187:13.77 Xorg >> 4835 ant 20 0 589m 39m 20m S 0.0 1.9 0:10.53 VirtualBox >> 4665 ant 20 0 785m 36m 10m S 0.0 1.8 0:07.64 krunner >> 4683 ant 20 0 531m 26m 8876 S 0.0 1.3 0:00.78 kmix >> 4601 ant 20 0 354m 15m 13m S 0.0 0.8 0:00.38 kdeinit4 >> 4628 ant 20 0 619m 14m 6644 S 0.0 0.7 0:01.01 knotify4 >> 4604 ant 20 0 703m 14m 8100 S 0.0 0.7 0:06.77 kded4 >> 4619 ant 20 0 531m 11m 6188 S 0.0 0.6 0:00.37 ksmserver >> 4708 ant 20 0 283m 10m 6148 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.25 klipper >> 4680 ant 20 0 364m 10m 6012 S 0.0 0.5 0:00.16 >> polkit-kde-auth >> 12819 root 20 0 65312 10m 1732 S 0.0 0.5 1:26.60 python
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Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-28 11:25 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-28 15:11 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-06-28 11:25 -0800
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-29 05:38 +1000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-28 15:55 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-06-28 12:59 -0800
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-28 18:02 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-06-28 17:11 -0800
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-28 23:39 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? floyd@apaflo.com (Floyd L. Davidson) - 2014-06-28 21:29 -0800
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-29 02:21 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2014-06-29 15:23 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-29 15:12 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer@cs.nmsu.edu> - 2014-06-29 17:36 -0600
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2014-07-01 10:37 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2014-07-01 16:14 +0000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-02 23:13 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2014-07-03 02:13 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Arno <me@privacy.net> - 2014-06-28 22:08 +0000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-28 19:42 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Mike Tomlinson <mike@jasper.org.uk> - 2014-07-01 10:41 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Lusotec <nomail@nomail.not> - 2014-07-01 11:31 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Kevin McMurtrie <mcmurtrie@pixelmemory.us> - 2014-06-28 23:31 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-06-30 06:30 +1000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2014-06-29 08:39 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-29 12:01 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-29 16:53 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-06-29 15:13 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-29 21:30 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? hal-usenet@ip-64-139-1-69.sjc.megapath.net (Hal Murray) - 2014-07-01 02:54 -0500
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Poutnik <Poutnik@privacy.net> - 2014-07-01 10:39 +0200
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2014-07-02 09:49 +1000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Andreas Rutishauser <andreas@macandreas.ch> - 2014-07-02 08:18 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-02 23:16 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2014-06-29 12:36 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-06-29 14:06 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Yousuf Khan <bbbl67@spammenot.yahoo.com> - 2014-07-03 02:16 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Ant <ant@zimage.comANT> - 2014-07-02 23:19 -0700
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Your Name <YourName@YourISP.com> - 2014-07-03 18:55 +1200
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "Charles T. Smith" <cts.private.yahoo@gmail.com> - 2014-07-03 12:46 +0000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? nospam <nospam@nospam.invalid> - 2014-07-03 14:31 -0400
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-03 19:57 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "whacker james" <wj852@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 09:02 +1000
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-04 00:23 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? Måns Rullgård <mans@mansr.com> - 2014-07-04 00:29 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2014-07-04 00:47 +0100
Re: Is it true that it is a bad idea to put a swap/pagefile on a SSD? "whacker james" <wj852@gmail.com> - 2014-07-04 17:54 +1000
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