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Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try

From	deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try
Date	2017-01-24 23:30 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
Message-ID	<abaibub93.99a@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 1/24/17, 4:20 PM, in article ag90b3.aguo34@rooftop.invalid, "deplorable
> owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
> ... 
>>>>> That makes more sense. Can you easily swap out macro sets? If not you are
>>>>> left in a bit better of a situation but then have the issue just in vim. I
>>>>> am sure you can swap out configuration files where they are saved... though
>>>>> again we are back to having to leave the program or jump to the command
>>>>> line and type paths and the like. Guess you could alias that but now we are
>>>>> talking quite a bit of configuration again.
>>>> 
>>>> What are you babbling about?
>>> 
>>> Not going to take time to explain again unless you make your question more
>>> specific.
>>> 
>>>> Vim has internal access to the shell.
>>>> @j is set to ":!pdflatex snit.tex && xpdf -geometry 1024x768 snit.pdf &"
>>> 
>>> Agreed. That is what I noted.
>>> 
>>>> When I want to see the output, I just type @j.
>>>> 
>>>> It took about 5 minutes to set up all those macros I listed.
>>> 
>>> OK.
>>> 
>>>>> And even then still are left with the situation of code in one window and
>>>>> output in another.
>>>> 
>>>> That's the way I want it.
>>> 
>>> Great. 
>>> 
>>>> WYSIWYG requires focusing on the formatting while you write.  All latex
>>>> markup
>>>> can be applied after the fact if you want.
>>> 
>>> Style can be applied after, too. But they are direct and visual -- not
>>> indirect where you need to look at another window to see if they are what
>>> you want. This makes users more prone to error.
>>> 
>> 
>> Actually the "direct and visual" is what makes users prone to error.
>> They cannot see exactly what they just did that screwed up their
>> whole document. 
> 
> They can add styles before or after and they see them directly, not in a
> different window. Less prone to error.

Nope.  More prone to error.

> Again, look at the software made for
> this market.
> 
> But if what you do works better for you, fine. Just because something is
> better for the majority does not mean you need to use it or that it is best
> for you. Choice is good.
> 
>> With an external window for editing the markup *IN PLAIN TEXT* they have much
>> more control, and it is vastly easier to correct mistakes.
> 
> You set styles. They can set styles. Select text and set the style in both
> cases, though with yours you have to set up macros describing what you want
> instead of just seeing it. But, again, use what works for you.
> 

And if a style application screws everything up, it can be tedious to
figure out just what went wrong and where.  With the markup separated,
it's easy to debug.

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Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 04:02 +0000
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-22 21:27 -0700
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-01-23 04:47 +0000
    Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-22 21:59 -0700
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 15:15 +0000
    Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 17:46 +0000
      Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 18:22 +0000
        Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 18:34 +0000
          Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 19:42 +0000
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:09 +0000
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:42 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:45 -0700
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:17 +0000
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:40 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 12:46 -0800
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 22:45 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 15:52 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 16:00 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 03:10 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:17 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:04 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:47 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:51 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 08:13 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 16:55 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 20:53 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:20 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:36 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:27 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-25 07:09 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 19:25 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:16 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:31 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:17 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:43 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:30 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 16:33 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:33 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 00:11 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:28 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:18 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 01:06 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 01:55 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 15:48 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:20 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:30 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-31 09:50 -0700
        Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:12 -0700
          Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:41 +0000
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:43 -0700
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 01:13 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-23 19:37 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:19 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:24 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-23 22:42 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 00:01 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:57 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:55 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 12:28 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 12:31 -0800
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:09 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:10 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:23 -0700
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-01-23 18:22 -0500

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