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Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try

From	deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid>
Newsgroups	comp.os.linux.advocacy
Subject	Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try
Date	2017-01-24 23:20 +0000
Organization	O.W.L.
Message-ID	<ag90b3.aguo34@rooftop.invalid> (permalink)
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Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
> On 1/24/17, 2:43 PM, in article xhbiu0.14p@rooftop.invalid, "deplorable owl"
> <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
> 
>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>> On 1/24/17, 2:17 PM, in article ahb0ag.au0tt@rooftop.invalid, "deplorable
>>> owl" <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> wrote:
>>>>> On 1/24/17, 12:25 PM, in article o689nd$l72$1@dont-email.me, "RonB"
>>>>> <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 2017-01-24, deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>> RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 2017-01-24, deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>> ...
>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Okay, I understand what you're saying but, from my point of view, it's
>>>>>> adds
>>>>>> unnecessary complexity.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Agreed... adding launchers not even directly tied to the program and then
>>>>> removing them and working with code and on and on and on... when you can
>>>>> just enter the text you want.
>>>> 
>>>> So do it with vim macros and stay in vim.
>>> 
>>> That makes more sense. Can you easily swap out macro sets? If not you are
>>> left in a bit better of a situation but then have the issue just in vim. I
>>> am sure you can swap out configuration files where they are saved... though
>>> again we are back to having to leave the program or jump to the command line
>>> and type paths and the like. Guess you could alias that but now we are
>>> talking quite a bit of configuration again.
>> 
>> What are you babbling about?
> 
> Not going to take time to explain again unless you make your question more
> specific.
> 
>> Vim has internal access to the shell.
>> @j is set to ":!pdflatex snit.tex && xpdf -geometry 1024x768 snit.pdf &"
> 
> Agreed. That is what I noted.
> 
>> When I want to see the output, I just type @j.
>> 
>> It took about 5 minutes to set up all those macros I listed.
> 
> OK.
> 
>>> And even then still are left with the situation of code in one window and
>>> output in another.
>> 
>> That's the way I want it.
> 
> Great. 
> 
>> WYSIWYG requires focusing on the formatting while you write.  All latex markup
>> can be applied after the fact if you want.
> 
> Style can be applied after, too. But they are direct and visual -- not
> indirect where you need to look at another window to see if they are what
> you want. This makes users more prone to error.
> 

Actually the "direct and visual" is what makes users prone to error.
They cannot see exactly what they just did that screwed up their
whole document.  With an external window for editing the markup
*IN PLAIN TEXT* they have much more control, and it is vastly
easier to correct mistakes.

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Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 04:02 +0000
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-22 21:27 -0700
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2017-01-23 04:47 +0000
    Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-22 21:59 -0700
  Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 15:15 +0000
    Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 17:46 +0000
      Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 18:22 +0000
        Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 18:34 +0000
          Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 19:42 +0000
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:09 +0000
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:42 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:45 -0700
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 20:17 +0000
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:40 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 12:46 -0800
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-23 22:45 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 15:52 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 16:00 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 03:10 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:17 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:04 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:47 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 05:51 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 08:13 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 16:55 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 20:53 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:20 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:36 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:27 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-25 07:09 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 19:25 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:16 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:31 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:17 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 21:43 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:30 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 16:33 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 22:33 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 00:11 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:28 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try ronb <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 00:18 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 01:06 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-25 01:55 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-25 15:48 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:20 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 23:30 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-31 09:50 -0700
        Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:12 -0700
          Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-23 20:41 +0000
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Snit <usenet@gallopinginsanity.com> - 2017-01-23 13:43 -0700
              Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try deplorable owl <owl@rooftop.invalid> - 2017-01-24 01:13 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-23 19:37 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try RonB <ronb02NOSPAM@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 04:19 +0000
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:24 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-23 22:42 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 00:01 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:57 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2017-01-24 06:55 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:22 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Marek Novotny <marek.novotny@marspolar.com> - 2017-01-24 12:28 -0600
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Steve Carroll <fretwizzer@gmail.com> - 2017-01-24 12:31 -0800
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:09 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 17:10 -0700
                Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try GreyCloud <mist@cumulus.com> - 2017-01-24 11:23 -0700
            Re: Screenplays on Linux -- another try Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2017-01-23 18:22 -0500

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