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| Subject | Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. |
| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
| References | (7 earlier) <XnsA90A16157B959melchizedek@216.166.97.131> <XnsA909E63DBB229taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43> <4d057f55-9631-4b67-979a-bacb36892607@googlegroups.com> <XnsA90D56E82372Etaustingmail@69.16.179.43> <pgtubk$hm$1@dont-email.me> |
| Message-ID | <XnsA90D711316F28taustingmail@69.16.179.42> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2018-06-26 11:06 -0700 |
Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> wrote in
news:pgtubk$hm$1@dont-email.me:
> On 6/26/2018 8:32 AM, Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote in
>> news:4d057f55-9631-4b67-979a-bacb36892607@googlegroups.com:
>>
>>> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 6:38:02 AM UTC+1, Ninapenda
>>> Jibini wrote:
>>>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>> news:XnsA90A16157B959melchizedek@216.166.97.131:
>>>>
>>>>> Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote in news:XnsA9096C9749CDEtaustingmail@69.16.179.43:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
>>>>>> news:67856068-af4e-45ef-a39e-ad9f54df54c9@googlegroups.com:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 3:48:22 AM UTC-4,
>>>>>>> peterw...@hotmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 5:34:50 PM UTC-5, James
>>>>>>>> Nicoll wrote:
>>>>>>>>> In article
>>>>>>>>> <6fbd9cec-bd1b-4c85-9403-0c5495a773f2@googlegroups.com>,
>>>>>>>>> John Halpenny <j.halpenny@rogers.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 5:40:51 PM UTC-4, Jibini
>>>>>>>>>> Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> The only thing an IQ test measures is the ability to
>>>>>>>>>>> take an IQ test.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I don't think that an IQ test is a great measure of
>>>>>>>>>> your worth as a person, or that declining scores are a
>>>>>>>>>> sign of the end of the world.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Having said that:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> For centuries, intelligent, healthy and good-looking
>>>>>>>>>> people have sought out other intelligent, healthy and
>>>>>>>>>> good-looking people with the goal of raising a family
>>>>>>>>>> with perhaps five or ten intelligent, healthy and
>>>>>>>>>> good-looking kids. More recently, large families have
>>>>>>>>>> gone out of style and only the "less favoured" are left
>>>>>>>>>> to produce a significant number of children. Discuss
>>>>>>>>>> possible outcomes of this?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> You had lots of siblings?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would expect a terrible plague of people posting
>>>>>>>>> thinly disguised Marching Morons nonsense in the one
>>>>>>>>> group where people are likely to recognize the source.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> It's not just from _The Marching Morons_; this idea was a
>>>>>>>> major premise of the whole eugenics movement. The Nazi
>>>>>>>> party notoriously adapted it into their own policies.
>>>>>>>> Forced sterilization on eugenic grounds has been carried
>>>>>>>> out in western countries until surprisingly recently.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We're smarter than any other animal, and evolved our
>>>>>>> intelligence. There's no way intelligence could evolve
>>>>>>> unless its (a) inheritable, and (b) enough variant within
>>>>>>> the population to affect the ability to have
>>>>>>> grandchildren. This is true for every evolved trait.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're dancing on the grave of the idea of how many
>>>>>> different definitions of intelligence there are.
>>>>>
>>>>> Absolutely. But regardless of what trait or traits make us
>>>>> capable of thinking better than (for example) a dog, those
>>>>> trait(s) evolved. Evolution requires inheritance.
>>>>
>>>> That is one type of intelligence. Dozens of other types have
>>>> been documented scientifically.
>>>>
>>>> And most of them do not appear to have fuckall of a genetic
>>>> component.
>>>>>
>>>>> So, however defined, 'intelligence' is inheritable.
>>>>>
>>>> Not according to the peer reviewed research, for most of it.
>>>>
>>>> Do you not believe in science?
>>>
>>> Some recent science - article at
>>> https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-discovered-almost-
>>> 1- 000-new-genes-associated-with-intelligence claims to be
>>> reporting an article in Nature Genetics
>>>
>>> An international team conducted a large-scale genetic
>>> association study of intelligence and discovered 190 new
>>> genomic loci and 939 new genes linked with intelligence,
>>> significantly expanding our understanding of the genetic bases
>>> of cognitive function.
>>>
>> And nurture is still far more important.
>>
> "The beatings will continue until intelligence improves."
> (Though probably not in a way the beater will like.)
>
There's a masturbation joke in there somewhere ("beating off"),
but I'm too busy with the T-1 Upgrade From Hell (and too lazy) to
dig for it.
--
Terry Austin
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https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB
"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
-- David Bilek
Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
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