Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing.

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From	djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt)
Subject	Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing.
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Date	2018-06-26 14:49 +0000
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In article <fpe4jfF2jhU1@mid.individual.net>,
Greg Goss  <gossg@gossg.org> wrote:
>djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) wrote:
>>John Halpenny  <j.halpenny@rogers.com> wrote:
>
>>>It all boils down to Darwin's Law, which is, to paraphrase only
>>>slightly, "Whoever raises the most babies wins."
>>
>>Actuall, it's whoever has the most *grandchildren* lives.  

True.  And one of the things that hominins developed over time
was longer lifespans so that an individual too old to reproduce
can still help take care of the grandchildren.

I'm doing that now, in fact; Hal and I live with our daughter and
son-in-law and are daycare for our grandson.  (We have another
grandson, but he lives in New York and we've yet to meet him.)

>I have no children, but have four nieces and nephews.  At 0.25
>relatedness (assuming that everyone was faithful) times four, that
>means that my Darwin Number would be 1.0 = breakeven.
>
>Unless you insist on that "grandkids" level.  Two of them don't have
>kids and the other two are still too young to have had kids yet.

You never know; the younger ones might make you a great-uncle
yet.

-- 
Dorothy J. Heydt
Vallejo, California
djheydt at gmail dot com

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  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:40 -0700
    Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 21:55 +0000
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          Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. John Halpenny <j.halpenny@rogers.com> - 2018-06-20 16:30 -0700
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              Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. John Halpenny <j.halpenny@rogers.com> - 2018-06-21 18:28 -0700
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                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-06-27 08:32 -0600
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                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-23 07:13 -0700
                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-23 15:35 +0000
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                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-24 16:27 +0000
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  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 18:01 -0500
    Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 16:16 -0700
  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-06-22 19:20 -0700
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