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Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing.

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Subject Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing.
From Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com>
References (5 earlier) <67856068-af4e-45ef-a39e-ad9f54df54c9@googlegroups.com> <XnsA9096C9749CDEtaustingmail@69.16.179.43> <XnsA90A16157B959melchizedek@216.166.97.131> <XnsA909E63DBB229taustincagmailcom@69.16.179.43> <4d057f55-9631-4b67-979a-bacb36892607@googlegroups.com>
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Organization Forte - www.forteinc.com
Date 2018-06-26 08:32 -0700

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mcdowell_ag@sky.com wrote in
news:4d057f55-9631-4b67-979a-bacb36892607@googlegroups.com: 

> On Saturday, June 23, 2018 at 6:38:02 AM UTC+1, Ninapenda Jibini
> wrote: 
>> Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> wrote in
>> news:XnsA90A16157B959melchizedek@216.166.97.131: 
>> 
>> > Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote
>> > in news:XnsA9096C9749CDEtaustingmail@69.16.179.43:
>> > 
>> >> Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
>> >> news:67856068-af4e-45ef-a39e-ad9f54df54c9@googlegroups.com: 
>> >> 
>> >>> On Thursday, June 21, 2018 at 3:48:22 AM UTC-4,
>> >>> peterw...@hotmail.com wrote: 
>> >>>> On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 5:34:50 PM UTC-5, James
>> >>>> Nicoll wrote: 
>> >>>> > In article
>> >>>> > <6fbd9cec-bd1b-4c85-9403-0c5495a773f2@googlegroups.com>,
>> >>>> > John Halpenny  <j.halpenny@rogers.com> wrote:
>> >>>> > >On Wednesday, June 20, 2018 at 5:40:51 PM UTC-4, Jibini
>> >>>> > >Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha wrote:
>> >>>> > >> The only thing an IQ test measures is the ability to
>> >>>> > >> take an IQ test. 
>> >>>> > >> 
>> >>>> > >I don't think that an IQ test is a great measure of
>> >>>> > >your worth as a person, or that declining scores are a
>> >>>> > >sign of the end of the world. 
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >Having said that:
>> >>>> > >
>> >>>> > >For centuries, intelligent, healthy and good-looking
>> >>>> > >people have sought out other intelligent, healthy and
>> >>>> > >good-looking people with the goal of raising a family
>> >>>> > >with perhaps five or ten intelligent, healthy and
>> >>>> > >good-looking kids. More recently, large families have
>> >>>> > >gone out of style and only the "less favoured" are left
>> >>>> > >to produce a significant number of children. Discuss
>> >>>> > >possible outcomes of this? 
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > You had lots of siblings?
>> >>>> > 
>> >>>> > I would expect a terrible plague of people posting
>> >>>> > thinly disguised Marching Morons nonsense in the one
>> >>>> > group where people are likely to recognize the source.  
>> >>>> > -- 
>> >>>> It's not just from _The Marching Morons_; this idea was a
>> >>>> major premise of the whole eugenics movement. The Nazi
>> >>>> party notoriously adapted it into their own policies.
>> >>>> Forced sterilization on eugenic grounds has been carried
>> >>>> out in western countries until surprisingly recently. 
>> >>> 
>> >>> We're smarter than any other animal, and evolved our
>> >>> intelligence. There's no way intelligence could evolve
>> >>> unless its (a) inheritable, and (b) enough variant within
>> >>> the population to affect the ability to have grandchildren.
>> >>> This is true for every evolved trait. 
>> >> 
>> >> You're dancing on the grave of the idea of how many
>> >> different definitions of intelligence there are.
>> > 
>> > Absolutely. But regardless of what trait or traits make us
>> > capable of thinking better than (for example) a dog, those
>> > trait(s) evolved. Evolution requires inheritance.
>> 
>> That is one type of intelligence. Dozens of other types have
>> been documented scientifically.
>> 
>> And most of them do not appear to have fuckall of a genetic 
>> component.
>> > 
>> > So, however defined, 'intelligence' is inheritable.
>> > 
>> Not according to the peer reviewed research, for most of it.
>> 
>> Do you not believe in science?
>> 
>> -- 
>> Terry Austin
>> 
>> "Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
>>     -- David Bilek
>> 
>> Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.
> 
> Some recent science - article at
> https://www.sciencealert.com/scientists-have-discovered-almost-1-
> 000-new-genes-associated-with-intelligence claims to be
> reporting an article in Nature Genetics 
> 
> An international team conducted a large-scale genetic
> association study of intelligence and discovered 190 new genomic
> loci and 939 new genes linked with intelligence, significantly
> expanding our understanding of the genetic bases of cognitive
> function. 
> 
And nurture is still far more important.

-- 
Terry Austin

Vacation photos from Iceland: 
https://plus.google.com/u/0/collection/QaXQkB

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 14:40 -0700
    Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-06-20 21:55 +0000
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                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-23 13:34 +0000
                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-23 07:13 -0700
                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-23 15:35 +0000
                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2018-06-23 17:13 +0100
                Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-24 16:27 +0000
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  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2018-06-20 18:01 -0500
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  Re: OT - For most of history, humans got smarter. That's now reversing. Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2018-06-22 19:20 -0700
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