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|---|---|
| Subject | Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology |
| From | Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> |
| References | (2 earlier) <99235b1c-2e8a-4c39-a039-c8054f25d6d8@googlegroups.com> <pc7f5o$7nl$2@gioia.aioe.org> <fkouabFoc7bU1@mid.individual.net> <d9cf12cd-df9b-4d22-8861-5923251fbe6f@googlegroups.com> <pc7n7a$mbd$2@gioia.aioe.org> |
| Message-ID | <XnsA8D4A07E3B335taustingmail@69.16.179.43> (permalink) |
| Organization | Forte - www.forteinc.com |
| Date | 2018-04-30 15:46 -0700 |
David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:pc7n7a$mbd$2@gioia.aioe.org:
> On 2018-04-30 11:41 AM, Kevrob wrote:
>> On Monday, April 30, 2018 at 12:24:47 PM UTC-4, Ted Nolan
>> <tednolan> wrote:
>>> In article <pc7f5o$7nl$2@gioia.aioe.org>,
>>> David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>> On 2018-04-30 7:52 AM, Quadibloc wrote:
>>>>> I know that happened to Shakespeare. But Tolkien? Didn't he
>>>>> raid old
>>>> literature for his tropes?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Doesn't everyone. But can you think of an example of a
>>>> Sauron-like Dark Lord with a horde of monster soldiers before
>>>> Tolkien?
>>>
>>> Could it be.. SATAN?
>>>
>>
>> On level down from The Big Bad, since that position is filled
>> by Melkor/Morgoth. Mairon/Sauron would be whoever
>> Lucifer/Satan's top lieutenant "fallen angel" was. Somebody
>> like Beelzebul, perhaps.
>>
>> But JRRR said LoTR isn't an allegory, so there doesn't have to
>> be one-to-one correspondence with the Christian legendarium,
>> not with any other muthological system.
>
> He said it wasn't an allegory about 20th century politics. But
> I'm pretty sure that Eru is God and Melkor is Satan. That's not
> allegory any more than Numenor being Atlantis is allegory.
>
Tolkein drew heavily on anglo-saxon mythology, including pre-
Christian mythology. And he mixed it all up pretty well.
--
Terry Austin
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Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-28 13:01 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-29 12:24 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 14:35 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-29 12:41 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-29 13:05 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-29 14:08 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-29 14:28 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-29 21:47 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-29 20:51 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-29 14:23 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-04-29 17:48 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-29 16:08 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Titus G <noone@nowhere.com> - 2018-04-30 14:21 +1200
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-30 03:46 -0500
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-30 06:52 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-30 14:12 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-30 10:28 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-30 10:10 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-04-30 16:24 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-30 10:41 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David Johnston <davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2018-04-30 12:27 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2018-04-30 13:03 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 15:46 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Moriarty <blues95@ivillage.com> - 2018-04-30 18:17 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2018-04-30 21:01 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2018-05-01 19:18 -0600
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology J. Clarke <jclarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2018-05-01 22:25 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-02 02:01 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 03:07 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-02 13:28 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-05-02 07:45 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-05-02 14:51 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Joy Beeson <jbeeson@invalid.net.invalid> - 2018-05-09 00:04 -0300
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2018-05-09 04:09 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-04 00:06 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-06-05 02:27 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-05 12:50 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-05 06:53 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-06-05 14:52 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-05 09:00 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 09:16 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 13:07 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jibini Kula Tumbili Kujisalimisha <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 11:13 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-05 15:01 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-06-05 19:05 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Ninapenda Jibini <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 02:39 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-06-06 02:30 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 09:06 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-05-02 09:30 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2018-05-02 12:41 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2018-05-02 20:33 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Johnny1A <johnny1a.again@gmail.com> - 2018-05-16 22:06 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology "Default User" <defaultuserbr@yahoo.com> - 2018-05-03 00:19 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 02:34 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 05:36 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-30 13:47 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 12:29 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-30 13:30 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-30 16:09 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology D B Davis <g@crcomp.net> - 2018-04-29 21:29 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Lawrence Watt-Evans <misenchantedpress@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 02:35 -0400
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2018-04-30 03:43 -0500
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-30 02:00 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Jack Bohn <jack.bohn64@gmail.com> - 2018-04-30 06:59 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2018-04-29 06:21 -0700
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2018-04-29 15:24 +0000
Re: Ray Bradbury and his issue with technology Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2018-04-29 14:06 -0700
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