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Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov

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Subject Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov
From Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
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Date 2016-09-09 14:33 -0700

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Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> wrote in
news:b4e086b0-f385-48ea-aa31-45adcf711ac3@googlegroups.com: 

> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 1:29:19 PM UTC-4, Gutless
> Umbrella Carrying Sissy wrote: 
>> Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> wrote in
>> news:b8149602-669b-4ede-9fde-81de10110859@googlegroups.com: 
>> 
>> > On Thursday, September 8, 2016 at 5:12:29 PM UTC-6, Jaimie
>> > Vandenbergh wrote: 
>> >> On Wed, 7 Sep 2016 19:05:33 -0700 (PDT), Robert Carnegie
>> >> <rja.carnegie@excite.com> wrote:
>> > 
>> >> >If air was naturally coloured blue then the moon would 
>> >> >appear blue.
>> >> 
>> >> It probably would, if the light at night wasn't generally
>> >> too faint to be triggering your retinal cones - the colour
>> >> receptors. It's only in the very brightest of full moons
>> >> that you can see any colour under moonlight at all. 
>> > 
>> > Except that the moon *itself* isn't illuminated by moonlight;
>> > it's illuminated by direct sunlight. Looking at a light
>> > source and looking at the objects it illuminates are two
>> > different things. 
>> > 
>> But in both cases, and all others, if the level of illumination
>> is too low to trigger the cones, you're still seeing in black
>> and white. 
>> 
>> In short, you didn't reply to what Jaimie said. At all.
>> 
>> (No surprises there, of course.)
> 
> I live in a dark area. On nights with a full moon, if the sky is
> clear, I can see some color by the moonlight - bright reds in
> particular. But even then the moon does not appear blue.

Well, the speculation was what color the moon would apepar *if* the 
air was blue.
> 
> The moon, at that point, is a hell of a lot brighter than
> (forex) traffic lights - it lights up the landscape, and I can
> see a long way. Traffic lights, though obviously colored, are a
> lot dimmer, but remain obviously colored.

The moon illuminates more because it is bigger. It is not brighter 
than traffic lights. If it were, traffic lights would be completely 
invisible in daylight. It is the difference between a point source 
and a big, bright source far away, whose light is dispersed across 
the landscape.
> 
> I have seen a blue moon, but by the usual method of there being
> distant forest fires spreading smoke.
> 
And, of course, an actual "blue moon," i.e., second new moon in a 
month.

-- 
Terry Austin

Tom "The Crap Man" Kratman is my bitch.

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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  Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 15:54 -0500
    Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-31 22:43 +0100
      Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 18:30 -0500
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-08-31 19:00 -0700
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-01 03:10 -0600
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-01 13:41 +0000
      Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-01 03:58 +0000
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 12:37 -0500
          Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-01 18:07 +0000
          Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-01 11:34 -0700
            Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 15:15 -0500
              Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 13:48 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 16:24 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 15:45 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 15:47 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 00:40 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 18:18 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 20:20 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-01 19:46 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 21:09 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-01 20:47 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 03:13 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 03:25 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 20:48 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 04:34 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-09-01 22:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 07:32 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-03 00:22 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 21:39 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-02 22:57 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 21:28 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-09-03 05:33 +0200
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 23:39 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 21:25 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2016-09-03 18:22 +1000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 10:10 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-04 00:38 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-03 20:23 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 08:31 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-03 08:25 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-03 08:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 16:21 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 10:39 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 13:17 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-02 23:03 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 17:54 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-03 00:03 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 21:35 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 16:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-02 21:16 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov 103134.3516@compuserve.com - 2016-09-07 12:56 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-07 19:05 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-07 22:21 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-08 04:53 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 00:12 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-08 17:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-08 22:36 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 08:34 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-09 04:41 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-09 03:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 16:36 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:11 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-09-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 09:52 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-09 11:18 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:29 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:17 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-09-09 19:59 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 14:14 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:44 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 15:35 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:34 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-09 19:19 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 04:40 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 08:21 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 07:09 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:49 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-10 08:19 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 12:27 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-10 10:47 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 12:49 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 17:15 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-10 14:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:29 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 12:47 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-10 10:55 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 12:51 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 17:18 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:45 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-10 11:22 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-10 10:33 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:33 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:36 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:06 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:10 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-10 12:49 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 14:43 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-10 17:57 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 20:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 20:27 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 19:51 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 21:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 18:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:40 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 17:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-14 18:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 22:26 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:38 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-12 21:55 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov 103134.3516@compuserve.com - 2016-09-16 12:06 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:30 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-02 00:12 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-02 08:53 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-02 01:33 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-01 21:53 -0600
              Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-01 20:11 -0400
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