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Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov

From Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov
Date 2016-09-02 00:40 +0000
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David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On 9/1/2016 3:24 PM, Michael F. Stemper wrote:
>> On 2016-09-01 15:48, tsbrueni@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Every 2050 years, on a day when all but one of the planet's 6 suns has
>>> set, a moon gets in front of that sun, leading to a multi-hour eclipse
>>> which allows the people to see a very large number of stars.  The
>>> combination of the darkness and the stars drives everyone mad.
>>>
>>> How is the planet able to hang onto a satellite that is so far away
>>> that it takes 2050 years to complete an orbit?
>>
>> Thanks to a complete lack of knowledge of celestial mechanics.
>>
>
> Wait...it doesn't take 2050 years to complete an orbit.  It's just 2050
> years between an eclipse that happens when all except the smallest suns
> are on the other side of the planet.  Of course in order for this to
> work the planet would have to have a very small land mass.

It's also my understanding that it takes about 2050 years for the Alpha
sun and the two distant companion pairs to simultaneously set. At that
point the Beta sun is left alone in the sky so darkness ensues when a
non-luminous planetary body eclipses Beta.

The non-luminous planet may very well eclipse Beta every day but it only
causes a black out on the planet Lagash when the other five suns are
antipodal to Saro City. An antipodal event that occurs approximately
every 2050 years.

What if Lagash and another planet of equal size rotate about each other?
Do the celestial mechanics work any better?

Thank you,

--
Don Kuenz KB7RPU

Oh dark, dark, dark, amid the blaze of noon,
Irrecoverably dark, total eclipse
Without all hope of day!
  -Milton

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Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-08-31 19:59 +0000
  Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 15:54 -0500
    Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov news{@bestley.co.uk (Mark Bestley) - 2016-08-31 22:43 +0100
      Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-08-31 18:30 -0500
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-08-31 19:00 -0700
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-01 03:10 -0600
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-01 13:41 +0000
      Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-01 03:58 +0000
        Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 12:37 -0500
          Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov ted@loft.tnolan.com (Ted Nolan <tednolan>) - 2016-09-01 18:07 +0000
          Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-01 11:34 -0700
            Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Lynn McGuire <lynnmcguire5@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 15:15 -0500
              Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 13:48 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Michael F. Stemper" <michael.stemper@gmail.com> - 2016-09-01 16:24 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 15:45 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 15:47 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 00:40 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 18:18 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 20:20 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-01 19:46 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-01 21:09 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-01 20:47 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 03:13 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 03:25 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2016-09-01 20:48 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 04:34 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Woodward <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2016-09-01 22:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 07:32 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 07:33 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-03 00:22 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 21:39 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-02 22:57 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 21:28 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Sjouke Burry <burrynulnulfour@ppllaanneett.nnll> - 2016-09-03 05:33 +0200
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 23:39 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 21:25 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Paul Colquhoun <newsposter@andor.dropbear.id.au> - 2016-09-03 18:22 +1000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 10:10 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-04 00:38 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-03 20:23 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 08:31 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-03 10:14 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-03 08:25 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-03 08:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-02 16:21 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-02 10:39 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 13:17 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-02 23:03 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 17:54 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-03 00:03 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-02 21:35 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-02 16:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-02 21:16 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov 103134.3516@compuserve.com - 2016-09-07 12:56 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-07 19:05 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-07 22:21 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-08 04:53 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 00:12 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-08 17:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-08 22:36 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 08:34 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-09 04:41 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov tsbrueni@gmail.com - 2016-09-09 03:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2016-09-09 16:36 +0100
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 09:11 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2016-09-09 09:45 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 09:52 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-09 11:18 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 10:29 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:17 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Peter Trei <petertrei@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 12:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2016-09-09 19:59 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 14:14 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:44 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 15:35 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:34 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-09 19:19 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 04:40 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 08:21 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 07:09 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:49 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-10 08:19 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 12:27 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-10 10:47 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 12:49 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 17:15 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2016-09-10 14:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:29 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 12:47 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-10 10:55 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-10 12:51 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 17:18 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:45 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Don Kuenz <g@crcomp.net> - 2016-09-12 00:06 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2016-09-10 11:22 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-10 10:33 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 14:33 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2016-09-09 15:13 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-09 16:00 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 10:36 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:06 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-09 16:10 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-10 12:49 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Charles Bishop <ctbishop@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-10 14:43 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2016-09-10 17:57 -0400
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 20:20 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-10 20:27 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 19:51 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-11 21:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 18:08 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-12 19:40 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Tom Kratman <tomkratman@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 17:31 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov TB <tsbrueni@dcn.davis.ca.us> - 2016-09-14 18:16 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2016-09-14 22:26 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:38 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-12 21:55 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov 103134.3516@compuserve.com - 2016-09-16 12:06 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Quadibloc <jsavard@ecn.ab.ca> - 2016-09-11 05:30 -0700
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David Johnston <Davidjohnston29@yahoo.com> - 2016-09-02 00:12 -0600
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2016-09-02 08:53 -0500
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2016-09-02 01:33 +0000
                Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2016-09-01 21:53 -0600
              Re: Young People Read Old SFF: Nightfall by Isaac Asimov wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2016-09-01 20:11 -0400
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