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Re: puppies

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Subject Re: puppies
From Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com>
References (10 earlier) <mrmq26$aof$1@Iltempo.Update.UU.SE> <XnsA503601DC9950taustingmail@69.16.179.42> <mro5b4$30p$2@dont-email.me> <XnsA50459C2F10F4taustingmail@69.16.179.42> <175xvjgxdow21.1umtovkj8ut5h$.dlg@40tude.net>
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Organization Forte - www.forteinc.com
Date 2015-08-28 10:52 -0700

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"Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> wrote in 
news:175xvjgxdow21.1umtovkj8ut5h$.dlg@40tude.net:

> On Fri, 28 Aug 2015 08:49:26 -0700, Gutless Umbrella
> Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote
> in<news:XnsA50459C2F10F4taustingmail@69.16.179.42> in
> rec.arts.sf.written:
> 
>> "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com>
>> wrote in news:mro5b4$30p$2@dont-email.me: 
> 
> [...]
> 
>>> Nothing in there about the opinion of the people OR the
>>> works, although there was plenty of that on both sides.
> 
>> You're not usually so dense as to claim "we're not
>> playing your game" is not a judgement on the person. 
> 
> It’s not: it’s a judgement of the action.

Bullshit. More pasive/aggressive bullying from the liberal left. At 
least conservative wingnuts admit when they're calling people 
names.

>  It’s not in the
> least incompatible with ‘I understand your motive and
> sympathize with your position, but this isn’t the way to
> effect the desired change’.

That's judging the message by judging the messenger. It's an error 
in science, and it's an error in literature.

>  Mind you, I’ve little doubt
> that in many cases it slops over into a judgement of the
> person or even is slopover *from* a judgement of the
> person, but it is not in itself such a judgement.
> 
Let's translate this in to a different (and exaggerate for effect) 
context:

Let's say you're on a jury for a murder trial. At the beginning of 
the trial, the prosecution gets up and says "The bastard did it, 
and we have proof." And the defense gets up and says "The 
prosecution is lying, and *we* have proof." And in the course of 
the trial, the prosecution presents their evidence and testimony, 
and it makes a compelling case for guilt. Then the defense gets up 
and proves, beyond any possible doubt, that the prosecution's star 
witnesses lied, under oath, about things that matter in the trial, 
and they they had mishandled key evidence in a way that taints the 
entire case.

But the defense attorney is a complete and utter asshole, and 
deliberately presents his case in way that will publicly humiliate 
the prosecutor to the greatest degree possible. No laws are broken, 
no court procedures are violated, but the damage to the 
prosecutor's repulation is great, and permanent.

Do you vote to condemn the defendant because you don't like his 
attorney?

-- 
Terry Austin

"Terry Austin: like the polio vaccine, only with more asshole."
    -- David Bilek

Jesus forgives sinners, not criminals.

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puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:44 -0700
  Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:46 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:09 -0400
  Re: puppies jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2015-08-23 22:28 +0100
  Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0500
    Re: puppies Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-08-24 10:27 +0100
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-24 20:43 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:11 -0400
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 05:37 -0700
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:49 -0400
            Re: puppies Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:43 -0700
              Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-25 01:58 -0400
        Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:48 -0600
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700
          Re: puppies Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:52 -0700
  Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-23 22:53 +0000
    Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 19:14 -0400
      Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 03:08 +0000
      Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:20 -0700
        Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 14:48 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:07 -0700
            Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 12:49 -0700
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:16 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 14:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
              Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-24 22:04 -0700
            Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 15:53 -0400
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 19:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:36 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-24 18:51 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-24 20:20 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-25 05:31 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:01 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-25 12:15 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-25 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 17:57 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 16:03 -0700
                Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 16:32 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:28 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:34 -0400
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 20:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 20:41 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:22 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:56 -0600
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 16:37 -0400
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-28 03:08 +0000
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-27 20:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:34 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:33 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Stephen Graham <graham1@speakeasy.net> - 2015-08-26 16:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-26 00:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Erik Trulsson <erikt@Update.UU.SE> - 2015-08-27 10:50 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:11 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:49 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 13:45 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:13 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:36 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:21 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2015-08-26 23:50 +0000
                Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-26 22:04 -0700
                Re: puppies Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2015-08-26 22:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 08:00 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:17 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:09 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2015-08-27 11:59 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:49 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:53 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 05:52 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 10:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:47 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:52 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 12:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:56 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 14:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-27 15:11 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:39 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 16:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-26 17:40 +0000
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-27 13:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-27 20:29 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 04:49 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 09:12 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 08:19 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 14:35 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 15:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-30 01:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 05:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 14:12 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-30 18:49 -0400
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-30 17:56 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-01 08:15 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-01 05:45 -0700
                Re: puppies William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 11:56 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 18:46 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-28 07:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:32 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 20:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:10 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-29 15:16 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 06:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2015-09-01 10:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:38 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:51 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@invalid.none> - 2015-08-30 23:10 +0000
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-31 07:44 +0000
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-31 14:04 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:45 -0400
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-09-01 12:14 -0600
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-01 12:19 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:24 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-29 08:12 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-30 01:26 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 07:56 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:39 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:59 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 22:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-26 17:07 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-27 17:49 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:20 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-01 15:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 11:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 22:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:27 -0700
          Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 22:47 +0000
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
          Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:38 +0000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 19:03 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:32 -0700
    Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-23 16:31 -0700
    Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:50 -0600
  Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:49 -0400
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 22:17 -0500
      Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:44 -0600
        Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:21 -0400
  Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 11:06 -0400
    Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:30 -0700
      Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0400
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:53 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:26 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:00 -0700
        Re: puppies Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2015-08-28 15:12 +0000
          Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-28 09:26 -0600
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:11 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 12:19 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:44 -0700
              Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:56 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 13:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 11:16 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-01 16:39 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                Re: puppies "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 20:52 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 08:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:26 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:14 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 08:36 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:18 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:42 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-02 18:35 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 12:38 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:53 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 15:04 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 14:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 14:22 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 02:55 -0500
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 05:23 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 06:28 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 07:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 09:33 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-03 10:59 -0600
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 17:46 +0000
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:09 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:37 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:51 -0700
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 19:14 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:05 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 13:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-04 14:57 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 11:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-03 15:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 12:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 19:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-03 20:53 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 13:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 15:09 -0400
                Re: puppies "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-04 21:16 +0100
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:44 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-09-05 00:30 +0000
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:01 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-05 01:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-08 15:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:55 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 07:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-13 11:46 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-13 14:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:13 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-13 16:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:20 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-06 21:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 12:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:58 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-04 16:19 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-04 10:24 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:52 -0500
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 20:21 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 20:41 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:27 -0500
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:17 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:44 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:53 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:32 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:30 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 13:14 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:06 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:20 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:07 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 11:52 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 10:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 10:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-04 14:57 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 07:05 -0400
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 00:09 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 10:32 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:03 -0700
            Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 02:20 +1000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:45 -0700
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:02 -0700
          Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:10 -0700
              Re: puppies Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-08-29 08:00 +1000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:25 -0700
  Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 17:02 -0700
    Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 20:23 -0400
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:12 -0700
        Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 14:05 -0400
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:28 -0400
          Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-04 17:07 -0700
            Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:20 -0500
              Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-05 01:38 +0000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 08:56 -0700
            Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 20:15 -0500
            Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:55 -0400
              Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 23:32 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:05 -0400
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:49 -0400
              Re: puppies Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0200
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:00 -0700
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 19:30 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:14 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:43 -0400
    Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-01 14:08 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 15:50 -0700
  "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 07:50 -0400
    Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 06:20 -0700
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-06 09:11 -0600
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-06 12:48 -0700
            Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-09-07 04:24 +0000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 11:25 -0400
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 10:46 -0500
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-09-08 14:49 +1000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-07 11:43 -0700
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-09-07 19:18 +0000
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-07 15:34 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-08 05:16 -0700

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