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Re: puppies

From Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net>
Newsgroups rec.arts.sf.written
Subject Re: puppies
Date 2015-08-30 03:36 +0000
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Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> wrote:
> No, they accomplished exactly what they intended to do. They
> predicted that the insiders who run the Hugos would supress the
> Puppies' nominees, then they proceeded to manipulate the process in
> to looking like that it whas happened. It's *not* what happened,
> but it's not entirely out of line to see that in the news coverage.
>
> Because Beale and his loonies don't care a rat's ass about the
> Hugoes one way or the other. That's just a tool to build his cult-
> like following of "minions." One of the key elements of building a
> cult is conflict with the mainstream, but it is *critically*
> important that the cult *lose* that conflict. It's a tool to
> isolate the followers from outside influence. "See? I told you
> they'd oppress us if we tried to do our thing, and they did. You're
> only safe here with us." Beale's read _The True Believer_, and
> understood it.
>
> And next year will reinforce the lesson. It'll be the last time
> they get to game the current nomination process, and they'll get
> handed their ass in teh final vote again, proving yet again that
> there's a caucasian man hating conspriacy in charge of science
> fiction. And then the rules will change to silence even the hint of
> dissent. That's how it'll play (and perception is *everything*, the
> reality is irrelevant), and it'll work. It wouldn't surprise me to
> see Beale moving on to some compound in the middle of Arkansas
> eventually, surrounded by people who sacrifice their own comfort
> for his.
>
> He's crazy, but he's not stupid.

Thank you for sharing _The True Believer_. It goes a long way towards
exposing successful modern politicians. Not altruistic pols, mind you,
just successful pols. 

Beale must be "bad dog" if he truly exploits it, Machiavellian style.
So the other dawg must be "good dog" (at least in the eyes of some).

Regardless, thank you again. 

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What you do speaks so loud that I can not hear what you say. - Emerson.

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puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:44 -0700
  Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-23 12:46 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:09 -0400
  Re: puppies jgd@cix.co.uk (John Dallman) - 2015-08-23 22:28 +0100
  Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-08-23 16:53 -0500
    Re: puppies Jaimie Vandenbergh <jaimie@sometimes.sessile.org> - 2015-08-24 10:27 +0100
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-24 20:43 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:11 -0400
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 05:37 -0700
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 08:49 -0400
            Re: puppies Richard Hershberger <rrhersh@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 08:43 -0700
              Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-25 01:58 -0400
        Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:48 -0600
          Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-24 22:46 -0700
          Re: puppies Kay Shapero <kay@invalid.net> - 2015-08-24 22:52 -0700
  Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-23 22:53 +0000
    Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-23 19:14 -0400
      Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 03:08 +0000
      Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 09:20 -0700
        Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 14:48 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 12:07 -0700
            Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 12:49 -0700
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:16 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-24 14:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
              Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-24 22:04 -0700
            Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 15:53 -0400
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 14:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Magewolf <Magewolf@nc.rr.com> - 2015-08-24 19:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:36 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-24 18:51 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-24 20:20 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-25 05:31 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:01 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-08-25 12:15 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-25 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:38 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 17:57 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 16:03 -0700
                Re: puppies lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-25 16:32 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:28 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:34 -0400
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-25 22:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:27 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-26 20:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 20:41 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:22 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:56 -0600
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-27 16:37 -0400
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-28 03:08 +0000
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-27 20:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:34 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-27 22:33 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Stephen Graham <graham1@speakeasy.net> - 2015-08-26 16:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-26 00:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Erik Trulsson <erikt@Update.UU.SE> - 2015-08-27 10:50 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:11 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:49 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 13:45 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:13 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Kuenz <garbage@crcomp.net> - 2015-08-30 03:36 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:21 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@none.invalid> - 2015-08-26 23:50 +0000
                Re: puppies "Robert A. Woodward" <robertaw@drizzle.com> - 2015-08-26 22:04 -0700
                Re: puppies Catherine Jefferson <spamtrap@spambouncer.org> - 2015-08-26 22:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 08:00 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:17 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 05:09 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Lynn McGuire <lmc@winsim.com> - 2015-08-27 11:59 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:49 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:53 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 05:52 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 10:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-08-27 19:09 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:47 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-27 11:52 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 12:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:56 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 14:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-08-27 15:11 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 15:39 -0700
                Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-27 16:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-08-27 17:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 13:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "John F. Eldredge" <john@jfeldredge.com> - 2015-09-26 17:40 +0000
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-27 13:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-27 20:29 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 04:49 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 09:12 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 08:19 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 14:35 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-28 11:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-28 15:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-30 01:35 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 05:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-30 13:48 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-30 14:12 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-30 18:49 -0400
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-30 17:56 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-10-01 08:15 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-10-01 05:45 -0700
                Re: puppies William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2015-10-01 11:56 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-28 18:46 -0400
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-28 07:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-28 09:32 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 20:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:10 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-29 15:16 -0400
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-08-29 06:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Joe Bernstein <joe@sfbooks.com> - 2015-09-01 10:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:16 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:38 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:51 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:23 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:55 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:44 +0000
                Re: puppies Torbjorn Lindgren <tl@invalid.none> - 2015-08-30 23:10 +0000
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-31 07:44 +0000
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-31 14:04 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:45 -0400
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-01 17:10 +0000
                Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-09-01 12:14 -0600
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-01 12:19 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:24 -0400
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-29 08:12 +0000
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-30 01:26 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 07:56 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:39 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:52 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:59 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 22:24 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-25 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-25 20:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-26 09:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-26 17:07 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-27 17:49 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 08:50 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 14:30 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-08-28 23:15 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:20 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-01 15:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 15:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 11:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Gene Wirchenko <genew@telus.net> - 2015-09-02 22:54 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:27 -0700
          Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-08-24 22:47 +0000
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:31 -0700
          Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-08-28 17:38 +0000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-24 19:03 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 16:32 -0700
    Re: puppies Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-08-23 16:31 -0700
    Re: puppies Steve Coltrin <spcoltri@omcl.org> - 2015-08-24 17:50 -0600
  Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 21:49 -0400
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-23 22:17 -0500
      Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-08-24 02:44 -0600
        Re: puppies Wolffan <AKWolffan@gmail.com> - 2015-08-24 05:21 -0400
  Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 11:06 -0400
    Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 09:30 -0700
      Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 13:41 -0400
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-27 10:53 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-27 21:26 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:00 -0700
        Re: puppies Chris Buckley <alan@sabir.com> - 2015-08-28 15:12 +0000
          Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-08-28 09:26 -0600
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:11 -0700
          Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 12:19 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:44 -0700
              Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-08-28 22:56 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 09:19 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 13:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 11:16 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-01 16:39 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 16:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-01 17:42 -0700
                Re: puppies "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-01 20:52 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 08:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:13 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:26 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 08:14 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 08:36 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 10:18 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-02 10:38 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:42 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-02 18:35 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 12:38 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:46 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:53 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 15:04 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 14:19 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 14:22 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 02:55 -0500
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 05:23 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 06:28 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 07:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-03 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 09:33 -0700
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-03 10:59 -0600
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 17:46 +0000
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:09 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 11:24 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:39 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:37 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 15:21 -0700
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 18:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 16:51 -0700
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-03 19:14 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:05 -0700
                Re: puppies petertrei@gmail.com - 2015-09-03 13:08 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 13:19 -0700
                Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-04 14:57 +0000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:06 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 11:40 -0700
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-03 15:13 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 12:54 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 17:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-03 19:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-03 20:53 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:12 -0700
                Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 13:48 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-04 15:09 -0400
                Re: puppies "Michael R N Dolbear" <me@privacy.net> - 2015-09-04 21:16 +0100
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 13:29 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 13:44 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:40 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:45 -0700
                Re: puppies goldfarb@ocf.berkeley.edu (David Goldfarb) - 2015-09-05 00:30 +0000
                Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 20:01 -0500
                Re: puppies Lawrence Watt-Evans <lwe@sff.net> - 2015-09-05 01:43 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:02 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-08 15:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 12:55 -0700
                Re: puppies hamish.laws@gmail.com - 2015-09-13 07:22 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 10:42 -0700
                Re: puppies Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-13 11:46 -0600
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-13 14:02 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:18 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:13 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-13 16:25 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-13 22:20 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-06 21:42 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 12:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:58 -0400
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 11:31 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:03 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:10 -0700
                Re: puppies scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2015-09-04 16:19 +0000
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-04 10:24 -0600
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:44 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:43 -0700
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-04 10:20 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:52 -0500
                Re: puppies David Johnston <David@block.net> - 2015-09-02 20:21 -0600
                Re: puppies Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-02 20:41 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:27 -0500
                Re: puppies Dimensional Traveler <dtravel@sonic.net> - 2015-09-03 18:17 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:30 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:25 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 11:44 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-02 20:53 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:26 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 07:32 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:30 -0700
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-03 13:14 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 11:05 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:06 -0500
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-02 15:41 -0400
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-02 13:52 -0700
                Re: puppies leif.roar@dimnakorr.com - 2015-09-03 04:20 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-03 09:29 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-03 20:02 -0500
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 09:07 -0700
                Re: puppies David DeLaney <daviddelaney@earthlink.net> - 2015-09-04 11:52 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-04 10:14 -0700
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 10:55 -0700
                Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-04 14:57 -0400
                Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 07:05 -0400
      Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 00:09 +1000
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-08-28 10:32 -0400
          Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:03 -0700
            Re: puppies "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-08-29 02:20 +1000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 10:45 -0700
        Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 09:02 -0700
          Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-28 14:02 -0400
            Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 11:10 -0700
              Re: puppies Stephen Harker <sjharker@netspace.net.au> - 2015-08-29 08:00 +1000
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-08-28 15:25 -0700
  Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-08-31 17:02 -0700
    Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-08-31 20:23 -0400
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:12 -0700
        Re: puppies "Brian M. Scott" <b.scott@csuohio.edu> - 2015-09-01 14:05 -0400
        Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 23:28 -0400
          Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-04 17:07 -0700
            Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 19:20 -0500
              Re: puppies jdnicoll@panix.com (James Nicoll) - 2015-09-05 01:38 +0000
              Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 08:56 -0700
            Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-04 20:15 -0500
            Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-04 23:55 -0400
              Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-04 23:32 -0500
                Re: puppies Ahasuerus <ahasuerus@email.com> - 2015-09-05 10:39 -0700
                Re: puppies "Sea Wasp (Ryk E. Spoor)" <seawasp@sgeinc.invalid.com> - 2015-09-06 10:05 -0400
            Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-05 06:49 -0400
              Re: puppies Mart van de Wege <mvdwege@gmail.com> - 2015-09-06 07:28 +0200
                Re: puppies Gutless Umbrella Carrying Sissy <taustinca@gmail.com> - 2015-09-08 09:00 -0700
    Re: puppies Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-08-31 19:30 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 04:14 -0700
    Re: puppies wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-01 06:43 -0400
    Re: puppies Konrad Gaertner <kgaertner@tx.rr.com> - 2015-09-01 14:08 -0500
      Re: puppies "Kevin C." <kevin_c75@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-01 15:50 -0700
  "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 07:50 -0400
    Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 06:20 -0700
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-06 10:42 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Greg Goss <gossg@gossg.org> - 2015-09-06 09:11 -0600
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-06 10:34 -0700
          Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Robert Carnegie <rja.carnegie@excite.com> - 2015-09-06 12:48 -0700
            Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) nebusj-@-rpi-.edu (Joseph Nebus) - 2015-09-07 04:24 +0000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) "J. Clarke" <j.clarke.873638@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 11:25 -0400
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? (was: puppies) Cryptoengineer <treifamily@gmail.com> - 2015-09-07 10:46 -0500
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2015-09-08 14:49 +1000
              Re: "Honey Badgers"? lal_truckee <lal_truckee@yahoo.com> - 2015-09-07 11:43 -0700
                Re: "Honey Badgers"? djheydt@kithrup.com (Dorothy J Heydt) - 2015-09-07 19:18 +0000
      Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) wdstarr@panix.com (William December Starr) - 2015-09-07 15:34 -0400
        Re: "Honey Badgers"?  (was: puppies) Kevrob <kevrob@my-deja.com> - 2015-09-08 05:16 -0700

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