Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again)

Subject	Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again)
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From	benj <benj@nobody.net>
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Date	2018-04-26 12:19 -0400

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On 4/26/2018 11:54 AM, Sergio wrote:
> On 4/26/2018 9:40 AM, kensi wrote:
>> More than five hundred members of the National Academy of Sciences have
>> signed a statement decrying the Administration’s “denigration of
>> scientific expertise”—particularly in the realm of climate change:
>>
>> https://www.newyorker.com/science/elements/americas-top-scientists-reprimand-donald-trump-again
>>
>>
> 
> Trump is right,
> 
> the US was getting screwed by the Paris Accord, USA taxpayers would have
> to pay BILLIONS of dollars to other countries.
> 
> It is not about globall worming it is about removing MONEY from USA
> 
> Trump is RIGHT.
> 
> Obama failed to submit it to Congress, intentionally.
> 
> The Paris climate agreement was deeply flawed from its start. It was
> legally and constitutionally suspect, based on politics rather than
> science, and contained unrealistic goals. It promised not only a
> dramatic expansion of the administrative state and a huge increase in
> the regulatory burden on American businesses, it threatened to put the
> brakes on U.S. economic output at a time when most economists think the
> U.S. will struggle to achieve even a meager two percent growth.
> 
> It’s likely that it was already acting as a drag on the U.S. economy.
> After President Barack Obama unofficially committed the U.S. to the
> Paris agreement, businesses began preparing for its impact. Knowing that
> it would diminish U.S. economic output, businesses invested less and
> directed more investment toward less-productive technology to meet the
> climate deal’s mandates. Banks and financiers withdrew capital from
> sectors expected to suffer under the climate deal and pushed it toward
> those expected to benefit. A classic example of regulation-driven
> malinvestment.
> 
> 
>      Goodbye to ‘American Last.’ The Paris agreement was basically an
> attempt to halt climate change on the honor system. Its only legal
> requirements were for signatories to announce goals and report progress,
> with no international enforcement mechanism. As a result, it was likely
> that the United States and wealthy European nations would have adopted
> and implemented severe climate change rules while many of the world’s
> governments would avoid doing anything that would slow their own
> economies. The agreement basically made the U.S. economy and Europe’s
> strongest economies sacrificial lambs to the cause of climate change.
> 
>     Industrial Carnage. The regulations necessary to implement the Paris
> agreement would have cost the U.S. industrial sector 1.1 million jobs,
> according to a study commissioned by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce. These
> job losses would center in cement, iron and steel, and petroleum
> refining. Industrial output would decline sharply.
> 
>      Hollowing Out Michigan, Missouri, Pennsylvania, and Ohio. The
> industrial carnage would have been concentrated on four states,
> according to the Chamber of Commerce study. Michigan’s GDP would shrink
> by 0.8 percent and employment would contract by 74,000 jobs. Missouri’s
> GDP would shrink by 1 percent. Ohio’s GDP would contract 1.2 percent.
> Pennsylvania’s GDP would decline by 1.8 percent and the state would lose
> 140,000 jobs.
> 
>      Smashing Small Businesses, Helping Big Business. Big businesses in
> America strongly backed the Paris climate deal. In fact, the backers of
> the climate deal reads like a “who’s who” of big American businesses:
> Apple, General Electric, Intel, Facebook, Google, Microsoft, Morgan
> Stanley, General Mills, Walmart, DuPont, Unilever, and Johnson &
> Johnson. These business giants can more easily cope with costly
> regulations than their smaller competitors and many would, in fact, find
> business opportunities from the changes required. But smaller businesses
> and traditional start-ups would likely be hurt by the increased costs of
> compliance and rising energy costs.
> 
>      Making America Poorer Again.  A Heritage Foundation study found that
> the Paris agreement would have increased the electricity costs of an
> American family of four by between 13 percent and 20 percent annually.
> It forecast a loss of income of $20,000 by 2035. In other words,
> American families would be paying more while making less.
> 
>      Much Poorer. The overall effect of the agreement would have been to
> reduce U.S. GDP by over $2.5 trillion and eliminate 400,000 jobs by
> 2035, according to Heritage’s study. This would exacerbate problems with
> government funding and deficits, make Social Security solvency more
> challenging, and increase reliance on government’s spending to support
> households.
> 
Hey Sergio, Smashing the bourgeoisie is always a good thing to do. No 
matter if it destroys the U.S. Economy, so long as it results in more 
socialism. That is a given. We are saving the planet here.

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America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-26 10:40 -0400
  Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Skeeter <skeet@invalid.invalid> - 2018-04-26 08:45 -0600
    Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-26 10:56 -0400
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        Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 11:23 -0400
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            Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 15:19 -0400
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              Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-26 15:36 -0500
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                Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:15 -0400
            Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-28 05:13 -0400
              Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-28 09:10 -0500
              Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:20 -0400
        Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump kensi <kkensington01@gmail.nospam.invalid> - 2018-04-28 05:09 -0400
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          Re: Americas Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-28 14:17 -0400
  Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Sergio <invalid@invalid.com> - 2018-04-26 10:54 -0500
    Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 12:19 -0400
  Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) Just Wondering <JustWondering@hotmail.com> - 2018-04-26 12:11 -0600
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    Re: America’s Top Scientists Reprimand Donald Trump (Again) benj <benj@nobody.net> - 2018-04-26 15:20 -0400
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