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Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out

Newsgroups comp.os.linux.networking, alt.comp.freeware, alt.internet.wireless
From unruh <unruh@invalid.ca>
Subject Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out
References (3 earlier) <l31p66$bfj$1@dont-email.me> <l344d5$gh9$1@speranza.aioe.org> <bblli5FpunoU1@mid.individual.net> <l348m1$rst$3@speranza.aioe.org> <bbm4vfFt6r8U1@mid.individual.net>
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Date 2013-10-10 00:15 +0000

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On 2013-10-09, Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote:
> billy wrote:
>> Mike Easter wrote:
>>
>>>> Q: What is the web browser using? (ICMP? TCP?)
>>>
>>> TCP.  But the 'process' involves TCP/IP.
>>
>> Hi Mike,
>>
>> So, if the web browser is what is failing, and if the
>> debug commands using TCP also fail, what value is there
>> in everyone saying that ICMP is dropped?
>>
>> What does ICMP have to do with the web browser failing?
>>
>> That is, why is everyone suggesting I test ICMP when the
>> failure of the web browser is the problem I'm trying to
>> test?
>
> Personally when I'm troubleshooting something I take into account the 
> fact that some hops handle ICMP, UDP, and TCP differently.  One of my 
> preferred tools for testing access to a server is Steve Gibson's IDServe 
> which runs under windows or WINE in linux and doesn't require 
> installation in either.
>
> For this target I would be using TCP port 80 on/at the webserver at 
> centos.  The tool shows my system resolving the IP and connecting to the 
> webserver there.

Which was why I suggested 
telnet centos.org 80
but that did not return anything for him. Everyone else in the world has
no trouble connecting but he does and he wants to know why.

>
> Initiating server query ...
> Looking up IP address for domain: www.centos.org
> The IP address for the domain is: 72.232.194.162
> Connecting to the server on standard HTTP port: 80
> [Connected]  Requesting the server's default page.
> The server returned the following response headers:
> [redact html from the centos Apache server]
> Query complete.
>
>> I don't understand why ICMP has 'anything' directly to do
>> with the web browser failing (other than ICMP also fails).
>
>  From the other info you've posted here, your system when not reaching 
> centos on port 80 TCP IDServe would show you resolving the name but not 
> connecting, which IDServe interprets as the server being stealthed or 
> not online, so its use wouldn't add anything to this particular 
> problem's solution; but I mention it as an indication that 'typically' I 
> don't use an ICMP tool to test some TCP-related server issues.
>
>

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Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-08 03:32 +0000
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "Gary R. Schmidt" <grschmidt@acm.org> - 2013-10-08 15:37 +1100
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 14:26 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Thomas Keusch <fwd+usenet-spam2013q4-1381444031@spam2013q4.bsd-solutions-duesseldorf.de> - 2013-10-10 22:32 +0000
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out David Hough <noone$$@llondel.org> - 2013-10-08 07:30 +0100
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-08 19:32 +0100
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2013-10-08 23:16 +0300
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 17:39 +0000
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 11:28 -0700
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 18:52 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2013-10-09 22:47 +0300
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 20:50 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 01:05 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 01:09 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 19:51 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 20:42 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-09 22:09 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 01:07 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-10 07:41 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:36 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 15:51 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 00:15 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:19 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:33 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 10:54 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 11:09 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-10 16:34 -0500
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 22:40 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-10 18:27 -0500
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Thad Floryan <thad@thadlabs.com> - 2013-10-10 16:49 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 00:40 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Thomas Keusch <fwd+usenet-spam2013q4-1381456101@spam2013q4.bsd-solutions-duesseldorf.de> - 2013-10-11 01:50 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 03:24 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out dyrmak <dyrmak@orange.fr.invalid> - 2013-10-11 08:50 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:26 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 16:03 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 20:19 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 20:38 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2013-10-11 21:34 +0300
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-11 00:00 +0100
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 11:18 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Tauno Voipio <tauno.voipio@notused.fi.invalid> - 2013-10-09 15:16 +0300
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 17:41 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-09 19:22 +0100
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:18 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-09 20:44 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:46 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:39 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-10 01:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 01:32 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-09 22:25 -0400
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 03:48 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 05:10 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ein <ein@no.spam> - 2013-10-10 13:24 +0200
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-10 10:31 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 17:37 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-11 00:01 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:21 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 21:04 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:18 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-11 00:03 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 00:57 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:07 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-10-11 08:56 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:47 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:58 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-10 01:24 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> - 2013-10-09 12:23 +0000
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Chris Davies <chris-usenet@roaima.co.uk> - 2013-10-09 19:27 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:21 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:47 +0000
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 10:43 +0000
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 10:51 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:14 -0300
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-09 12:24 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:42 -0300
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 13:57 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-09 15:09 +0100
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 11:27 +0000
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-09 08:58 -0300
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 18:44 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 19:58 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:23 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 21:38 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 16:14 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-09 18:02 -0700
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-10 01:37 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-10 03:17 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:03 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 20:06 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-09 21:27 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 22:15 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-10 00:35 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-10 09:15 +0100
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 01:40 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out nemesis <nemesis@home.it> - 2013-10-10 23:03 -0300
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:43 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ~BD~ <~BD~@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-11 16:11 +0100
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 04:11 +0000
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 04:19 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 04:25 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 04:45 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out ein <ein@no.spam> - 2013-10-11 08:06 +0200
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:32 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:41 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:48 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Richard Kettlewell <rjk@greenend.org.uk> - 2013-10-11 09:00 +0100
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:30 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com> - 2013-10-14 19:20 +0000
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-11 10:17 +0100
              Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out billy <billy@is.invalid> - 2013-10-11 14:23 +0000
                Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "p-0''0-h the cat (ES)" <super.pooh@furryfreeware.invalid> - 2013-10-11 22:46 +0100
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Scott Hemphill <hemphill@hemphills.net> - 2013-10-14 16:47 -0400
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-09 16:17 +0000
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-10 16:41 -0500
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-10 15:16 -0700
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-10 15:18 -0700
        Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-13 14:34 -0500
          Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2013-10-13 14:27 -0700
            Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "ps56k" <pschuman_no5pam_m3@interserv.com> - 2013-10-17 14:58 -0500
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-11 22:17 +0200
  Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-11 22:42 +0200
    Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out unruh <unruh@invalid.ca> - 2013-10-11 21:16 +0000
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2013-10-11 18:15 -0400
      Re: Frustrated that I don't UNDERSTAND why my network times out "petrus bitbyter" <petrus.bitbyter@hotmail.com> - 2013-10-13 02:04 +0200

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